Things you didn't know about oil shale - Page 2

UnderseaLcpl · 07-26-08, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But isn't that still 2500 barrels now not going to make those other products? I see what you mean when you say that cargoes are not designated for one or the other, but with shale producing the one couldn't the normal crude refineries be devoted to the other? I'm confused.

I see what you're saying but those 2500 barrels of crude could still be used to add to the shale supply of diesel, heavy oil etc. Basically, shale adds to our total supply of non-gasoline petroleum products, thus increasing supply and lowering prices.
"Devoting" a refinery to production of gasoline when it is supplied by barrels of crude oil would be a waste. Additionally, refineries are designed to make the most of the barrel.
I think I see what you're asking but if I'm correct it should be irrelevant to the production of gasoline.

Platapus · 07-26-08, 04:50 PM

"But isn't that still 2500 barrels now not going to make those other products? "

Yes it would. For every barrel processed we would have the appropriate ratio of all the products.

"I see what you mean when you say that cargoes are not designated for one or the other, but with shale producing the one couldn't the normal crude refineries be devoted to the other? I'm confused."

I am not sure what you mean by devoting a refinery. Do you mean taking an existing refinery that processes crude oil and use it to process Shale Oil? If that is your question I would say probably not. The reconversion would be so expensive it might be easier to just build a newer refinery. One of the advantages of a Shale Oil refinery is that it can be made smaller than a crude oil refinery.

Have I deconfuse you or did I just make it worse?

Sailor Steve · 07-26-08, 11:30 PM

No, I can see the building of new refineries for shale, but then couldn't existing ones be devoted to just the other stuff?

I'm actually saying that after the fact to clear up what I meant, but earlier today LanceCPL explained to me privately that all the different products come out of the same crude anyway, and have to be that way.

I'm still confused, but only because that's my natural state.

nikimcbee · 07-29-08, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

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Originally Posted by Platapus

So I guess the idiot question is "what is holding up Oil Shale exploitation?

Government?

Oil Companies?

Environmentalists?

Technical?

Money?

not any more. I'd blame answer C

SUBMAN1 · 07-29-08, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

not any more. I'd blame answer C

This man gets a cookie! He got the right answer! A secondary one would be A for listening to C. BP solved D, but B really likes the cock up created by C and A since it brings in more profits for B!

-S

nikimcbee · 07-29-08, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

not any more. I'd blame answer C

This man gets a cookie! He got the right answer! A secondary one would be A for listening to C. BP solved D, but B really likes the cock up created by C and A since it brings in more profits for B!

-S

Yip-ee! I AM A winner

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UnderseaLcpl · 07-30-08, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

This man gets a cookie! He got the right answer! A secondary one would be A for listening to C. BP solved D, but B really likes the cock up created by C and A since it brings in more profits for B!

-S

And at last we have a good summation
of socioeconomics. Bravo Subman!!!!

nikimcbee · 08-06-08, 01:40 PM

Shale oil bump.

07-26-08, 04:50 PM	#17
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,429 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	"But isn't that still 2500 barrels now not going to make those other products? " Yes it would. For every barrel processed we would have the appropriate ratio of all the products. "I see what you mean when you say that cargoes are not designated for one or the other, but with shale producing the one couldn't the normal crude refineries be devoted to the other? I'm confused." I am not sure what you mean by devoting a refinery. Do you mean taking an existing refinery that processes crude oil and use it to process Shale Oil? If that is your question I would say probably not. The reconversion would be so expensive it might be easier to just build a newer refinery. One of the advantages of a Shale Oil refinery is that it can be made smaller than a crude oil refinery. Have I deconfuse you or did I just make it worse? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-26-08, 11:30 PM	#18
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	No, I can see the building of new refineries for shale, but then couldn't existing ones be devoted to just the other stuff? I'm actually saying that after the fact to clear up what I meant, but earlier today LanceCPL explained to me privately that all the different products come out of the same crude anyway, and have to be that way. I'm still confused, but only because that's my natural state. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-06-08, 01:40 PM	#23
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Shale oil bump. __________________

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