Cow 'emissions' more damaging to planet than CO2 from cars

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

If it's solar cycles, then why have we never seen this before?

Cyclical implies repetition. Current warming is considerably faster than anything we've seen before.

It ain't the sun.

The sun has an effect, of course. Just not that kind of effect.

See my above post - numbers manipulation.

-S

[Tchocky]

How so?

EDIT - And to what numbers are you referring?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

How so?

EDIT - And to what numbers are you referring?

If you look at Al Gore's graphs showing this massive spike in the 1990's in temps and CO2 emmissions is what I'm referring to. These people are making you believe lies, and anyone with a brain knows that industry didn't expand 10x over! There aren't 10x the cars on the planet. Maybe we have 10x more cows farting? Come on! Give me a break! I'm tired of this nonsense.

-S

[Tchocky]

I was talking about the solar effect on global temperature. Try reading my post again.

Can you show some of these graphs, they don't sound specifically familiar to me? It would also bolster your claims of lies, and possibly to credence to your insulting description of those you disagree with.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I was talking about the solar effect on global temperature. Try reading my post again.

Can you show some of these graphs, they don't sound specifically familiar to me? It would also bolster your claims of lies, and possibly to credence to your insulting description of those you disagree with.

Oh go jump off a cliff. We've all seen them. With a statement like that, you are not even worth talking to.

They are probably posted 100 times in this forum no less.

-S

[Tchocky]

With a statement like that, you are not even worth talking to.

Anything other than backing up your statement, eh?

Oh go jump off a cliff

That's nice.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Anything other than backing up your statement, eh?

Excuse me?

That's nice.

And perfectly fitting.

-S

[Tchocky]

Excuse me?

I asked you to back up your claim, and you suddenly argued that I wasn't worth talking to.
It seems that I was worth talking to up until the point where I asked you to provide evidence for your claim.
Understand?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

If it's solar cycles, then why have we never seen this before?

Cyclical implies repetition. Current warming is considerably faster than anything we've seen before.

It ain't the sun.

The sun has an effect, of course. Just not that kind of effect.

Oh guys, it's not farts, cows belch methane.

Current Warming??? Some of these "scientists" are now saying that a reversal and ice age is within the realm of possibilities. There is no "current warming" going on. The warming (and old climate models) you refer to is not going on in 2008.....despite increased CO2 output from humans. And despite the increases from humans, it's still a drop in the bucket. And it's also very amazing that sunspot acitivity has been reduced this winter, and that has directly correlated to lower temperatures. I wouldn't expect the bought and paid for "scientists" to bring attention to it though.

Cow emissions destroying the planet?!?!? And you can't even see how funny and ridiculous the whole notion is.

[Tchocky]

It's hardly ridiculous, methane as a greenhouse gas is 20 times stronger than CO2.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I asked you to back up your claim, and you suddenly argued that I wasn't worth talking to.
It seems that I was worth talking to up until the point where I asked you to provide evidence for your claim.
Understand?

I'm sorry. SOmething that has hundreds of threads and has been posted here more times than I can count - I am not going to waste my time and go over the same exact things we have hashed here in plenty of occasions - including between me and you. You and your damn stall tactics. Its getting old real fast.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Subman you sound like a fanatic religious leader Never question Subman's dogma !

A big WHATEVER here.

-S

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

It's hardly ridiculous, methane as a greenhouse gas is 20 times stronger than CO2.

No, it's totally ridiculous the tiny amount cows emit compared to total naturally occuring greenhouse gases. And how it's looked at as a problem. This is going to go down in history like the acid rain scares that were supposed to destroy the ability for soil to grow crops. In 20 years people will be laughing about how people thought in 2008 cow burps were causing out of control global warming. The whole notion of this seems pretty far out there. But at least it might be good for the beef industry.

[Tchocky]

It's not as intuitively logical as other sorts of emissions, I suppose.
Then again, there are a hell of a lot of cattle producing a lot of methane, and all of this is at the margin of natural processes.

@ Subman - If you post ridiculous claims, nay, any claims, expect to be asked for evidence. How many times it's been discussed before makes little difference, and sounds like an excuse at this stage.

[TDK1044]

The Earth will continue its natural environmental cycles, just as it has for millions of years, the sun will continue to do the same, and the politically motivated nonsense about so called 'Global Warming' will also continue.