Confessions of a sub skipper

[M. Sarsfield]

I might start sailing with unlimited fuel until/if they ever get this problem fixed.

I really enjoy the external view, as well. I likek the bird's eye view of watching the torpedoes hit their targets. You learn a lot about manual targeting this way, too.

[Rockin Robbins]

Of an American sub in WWII who was helped by a tanker dispatched to them? Another submarine? (memory is emitting faint whisps of smoke on that one) Stole from sampans, enemy or friendly shipping? Please provide sources and all that legal mumbo jumbo that comes from making historical claims. I just wonder how unrealistic the game is. The track record is pretty well in the devs' favor for similar situations.

Just the same, what's so bad about using unlimited fuel?

OK, donut, you bring the kerosene for this flamethrower?
No, all I could come up was this can of gas.
No problem, it'll burn, pour it in right here.
Yup, Yup!
All right, Mr. ATR, now you get yours!!!!!!!!!!
Ignition!
KABOOM!!!!!!
oops..........

[Major Johnson]

Using limited fuel doesn't bother me. That's what TC is for. But if the fuel consumption is really not historic, and really don't know one way or the other, then it should be adjusted accordingly. I've personally been trying to play to play at a higher realism. My biggest down fall is auto-targeting. I'm going to learn manual before I start a career. But I'll never be able to claim 100% since I really love watching the action!! Although I won't use the external views to purposely gain an advantage.

[M. Sarsfield]

I was thinking of the few instances where some of our subs and a few allied sub got beached early in the war and other boats and/or ships came to the rescue to try to free the beached boats. In the end they were scuttled and the crews were rescued.

So, refueling and towing may be out of the question, but a rescue isn't too far fetched. It would be a large reknown penalty, depending on the circumstances.

[Sailor Steve]

1) I too can't recall reading of any actual cases in which submarines stole fuel from local diesel-powered craft, or were refueled or towed home by a tanker or tender. But memory fails me sometime, and I would love to see an actual account.

2) I also don't recall reading about any subs running out of fuel, ever. If they were leaking for some reason they either were attacked and sunk, or managed to make it to a friendly port for temporary repairs. I also like the 'teleport' function in SH3, simply because you couldn't steer with the engines and if your rudder was disabled you were stuck. Not realistic.

3) I'd like to welcome you all to this week's meeting of CHEATERS ANONYMOUS. My name is Steve, and I'm a cheater. I like to tell myself it's only a small one; external views is it; but it's still a cheat. I'm trying to clean my life up and play like a man, but those ships are soooooo pretty.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Major Johnson

Although I won't use the external views to purposely gain an advantage.

Major Johnson, I think that is an important distinction.

If you are using external views only to gloat at the suffering of your enemies I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

As for manual targeting, invest in the time to learn it. It is well worth it. Your enjoyment and sense of accomplishment will skyrocket the first time you manually target a ship and then use external view to gloat evilly (cackling and rubbing hands is permissible BTW).

But, I have to confess, I find manual targeting much harder in SH4 than it was in SH3. I don't know why. It may be just because I am more familiar with SH3. Or I may just be too dumb to get a handle on SH4

Good luck and good hunting to you.

[ATR-42]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

3) I'd like to welcome you all to this week's meeting of CHEATERS ANONYMOUS. My name is Steve, and I'm a cheater. I like to tell myself it's only a small one; external views is it; but it's still a cheat. I'm trying to clean my life up and play like a man, but those ships are soooooo pretty.

LOL! :rotfl:

Originally Posted by Platapus

As for manual targeting, invest in the time to learn it. It is well worth it. Your enjoyment and sense of accomplishment will skyrocket the first time you manually target a ship and then use external view to gloat evilly (cackling and rubbing hands is permissible BTW).

Such true words, Ive used manual targeting since day one, I still find myself cheering out loud after a "long shot" manual targeting hit. Im usually thankful no one else is home with me at that particular time

[capt_frank]

I've got three things unchecked:

1. Fuel: the way I teleport around the globe, I need all the fuel I can get;
2. No Map Contacts: It's like a drug, I GOTS to HAVE it! Otherwise, I'm lost worse than Gilligan, and
3. External View: Yes, I've switched back to looking outside JUST TO watch the prettiness...Sometimes I call for unlimited periscope depth exercises, with a few crash dives and emergency surfaces, just to watch the sub in action...

This is definately good stuff Maynard!