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Old 02-13-08, 10:03 AM   #16
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The abundance of cameras and the mass publication of videos is certinaly a aid to the
defeat of opression.
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Old 02-13-08, 10:04 AM   #17
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Nothing official on the City of Baltimore or Baltimore Police Department websites either.

I also usually state that you have to see both sides of an issue when officer brutality is complained about. However, this is a obvious power trip by the 17 year veteran. The officer even acknowledged that the 14 year old had earphones, yet is still yelling at him.

In this situation, I would've told the officer to talk with my parents lawyer...granted, the kid was probably scarred to death that he was being treated this way over skateboarding. I see a civil suit coming out of it and the department loosing.
Which means the department will lose out, not the officer.
The union will fight for him and he'll be able to keep his job...granted, he's already in the lowest position in the force handing out parking tickets. Shoot, he either got to that position for a reason or decided to take it easy after a 17 year career.
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Old 02-13-08, 10:06 AM   #18
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Normally I'm very defensive when it comes to accusations of police brutality etc.

But this guy was just..a tit. "You disrespect me, this badge and my department" Dude, you've got a golfcart and shorts on. Hope this guy gets canned, because HE'S disgracing the department.
Nice! You called him dude.


If I was that cop, sure I'd tell them not to skateboard there, but I wouldnt get onto my high-horse and nitpick with them. I would've told them a couple places where it is allowed, rather than stealing their boards
...not to defend the cop, but I did substitute teaching for 2 years and dealing with jr high age kids gets really old fast. Especally when they are trying to get you to "blow your top."
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Old 02-13-08, 12:27 PM   #19
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...not to defend the cop, but I did substitute teaching for 2 years and dealing with jr high age kids gets really old fast. Especally when they are trying to get you to "blow your top."
Yep. I see that a lot in my line of work as well.

What I think the cop should have done is just confiscate their skateboards and run them off.
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Old 02-13-08, 12:36 PM   #20
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The police are at it again!

This time they are tipping peoples wheel chairs over for fun.
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The police are at it again!

This time they are tipping peoples wheel chairs over for fun.
Saw that on the news today, dreadful.
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Old 02-13-08, 03:12 PM   #22
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Yeah I saw that one to. That guy is probably oing to sue the department which is one of the many flaws in the American legal system. The entire department who could have done nothing to stop it will get screwed, and the *******s that actually dumped the guy out of the wheelchair will probably get of with suspension without pay. Sounds to me like what that deputy did is grounds for being fired.
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Should have tased... twice for good measure.
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Old 02-13-08, 06:44 PM   #25
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...not to defend the cop, but I did substitute teaching for 2 years and dealing with jr high age kids gets really old fast. Especally when they are trying to get you to "blow your top."
Sorry dude, but no-one respects the supply teacher... :rotfl:

ok I'm making fun here and no offence is intended. I'm not proud of the fact that we made one of our substitute teachers cry when I was about 15, but none of our regular teachers would have allowed us to escalate the situation to that level in the first place; same way as that experienced cop in the initial video should not have had a 'premature rage ejaculation' when dealing with a couple of minors.

There's a lot of issues here with kids running amok and killing people http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7238496.stm and generally behaving abusively. There's a time and a place for aggressive police tactics, but surely those kids with the skate boards was not it.
I guess it's a bit sad that 'Dixon of Dock Green' style coppers would be of no use handling some of the brats near where I live.

As for chucking that quadriplegic guy out of his wheelchair damn! that's just cold.
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Old 02-14-08, 04:26 PM   #27
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The police are at it again!

This time they are tipping peoples wheel chairs over for fun.
Saw that on the news today, dreadful.
Do you think that he might have made a racist remark? Something triggered the response......Not that the response was justified, but he really pissed her off.......
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Old 02-14-08, 05:17 PM   #28
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The police are at it again!

This time they are tipping peoples wheel chairs over for fun.
Saw that on the news today, dreadful.
Do you think that he might have made a racist remark? Something triggered the response......Not that the response was justified, but he really pissed her off.......
I see no evidence that he has so we should assume he did not, however that is
somewhat besides the point.

The police are in a position of authority. If one of them decides to be physically
abusive to you you can not defend your self as that would justify the abuse.
If you are paralyzed then you physically can't defend your self.

This situation only works because the public are willing to put their trust in the police
service. The police are public servants.

Any wilful breach of this trust through abuse of power can not conceivably be
acceptable under any circumstances.

Even under the worst case scenario, lets say the man in the chair had murdered
several hundred children and made personal remarks to the police officer, tipping
a wheelchair over is not a public service, it is a abuse of both physical and official
power and of trust that serves no purpose other than malice.
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Old 02-15-08, 01:05 PM   #29
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The police are at it again!

This time they are tipping peoples wheel chairs over for fun.
Saw that on the news today, dreadful.
Do you think that he might have made a racist remark? Something triggered the response......Not that the response was justified, but he really pissed her off.......
I see no evidence that he has so we should assume he did not, however that is
somewhat besides the point.

I understand your abuse issue. However because you were not shown nor heard any

thing does not in my opnion mean he didn't do something. You do not see or hear what lead up to the abuse. This official did not arbitarily (sic) toss him to the ground. This individual provoked the reaction
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Old 02-15-08, 01:58 PM   #30
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The police are at it again!

This time they are tipping peoples wheel chairs over for fun.
Saw that on the news today, dreadful.
Do you think that he might have made a racist remark? Something triggered the response......Not that the response was justified, but he really pissed her off.......
He pissed her off probably because she didn't know the specifics of the case and figured the guy was faking his disability.

"If you can drive, you can stand up." was her mentality probably.
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