Final Pre-release Pitch Video Poll (I promise :)

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

RDP I did or rather I took off Pitch and Roll. Boat's more stable now but miss the Pitch and Roll. I think I'm suffereing from 'Having the Whole Cake' syndrome. I'm really glad someone is attempting to fix this and you really have my support.

[Karbo]

I picked the Boat in 2 and the water in 3.

[hyperion2206]

For me it's boat #3 and water #1.

[jdkbph]

The boat in video 2 looked good... not too much wild rolling and enough pitching to give you that "shipping green water" feel.

Ditto the ocean in video 2.... looked a lot more like deep ocean rollers we should be seeing, than the in-shore chop effect as in video 3.

IMHO

JD

[Doolittle81]

When released, how will this Mod relate to the "ROW Sub Reflections and Roll Pitch Mod_vs5"?

[ustahl]

Boat 2
Water 3

Could you show us a video of this combination, as it's got several votes?

[donut]

R/l Ocean My test picts in testers thread,more moderate. Thxs.,panthercules

[panthercules]

Originally Posted by Doolittle81

When released, how will this Mod relate to the "ROW Sub Reflections and Roll Pitch Mod_vs5"?

This Pitch Mod will be installed via JSGME on top of (after) all of the latest versions of the various ROW modules - JSGME will report that it will "conflict" with the following ROW modules (in all cases, the latest versions available as of Dave's death, plus the Add-on):

ROW Sub Reflections (item 3a on the list in the first post in the ROW thread)

ROW Controls (item 7a on the list in the first post in the ROW thread)

ROW Add-on (item 10, just released by Kriller2 and team)

and you should tell JSGME to go ahead and install/over-write because the files from those ROW modules will be included in the Pitch Mod, so you will get all the ROW aspects of those files plus my Pitch tweaks to those files.

The readme will also contain a complete listing of the files tweaked and the values changed, for those who might want to install manually for some reason or who might want to experiment further.

[edit] - I just noticed a post that seems to say that the new ROW Add-on includes the earlier "Controls" module (Item 7a noted above), so that it probably won't be necessary to use both item 7a and the Add-on. That won't change anything about the Pitch Mod, because it's built on the Add-on and therefore also on the embedded "Controls" files. I'm just getting both items 7a and 10 showing up in my JSGME conflicts report because I let the Add-on over-write item 7a instead of uninstalling item 7a first. Bottom line, you'll still install the Pitch Mod after all the ROW modules you use, and let it over-write whatever files JSGME says it will, and you'll be fine.

[panthercules]

Originally Posted by ustahl

Boat 2
Water 3

Could you show us a video of this combination, as it's got several votes?

I want to get a few more responses to the poll before I explain anything about them, as I don't want to subconsciously influence people's choices, but once I get some more responses to the poll I will address this question in more detail.

Originally Posted by Wilcke

What sea state and wind speed am I looking at, and how many knots is the boat making.

All 3 videos are shot with the same sub in exactly the same weather conditions - sailing at ahead standard directly into the wind at a wind speed of 15 m/s (so, boat making about 11-12 knots into a headwind of about 28-30 knots).

[ustahl]

Originally Posted by panthercules

I want to get a few more responses to the poll before I explain anything about them, as I don't want to subconsciously influence people's choices, but once I get some more responses to the poll I will address this question in more detail.

All 3 videos are shot with the same sub in exactly the same weather conditions - sailing at ahead standard directly into the wind at a wind speed of 15 m/s (so, boat making about 11-12 knots into a headwind of about 28-30 knots).

1. Fair enough, that's understandable. In any case eagerly awaiting the final release, thanks a lot in advance.

2. With these boat speed & wind conditions I might in fact lean towards 3 & 3, although with water 3 some of the highest wave tips look a bit chunky (maybe it's just a FRAPS video limitation?). Wind speed being the highest value shown in the game, I feel there should be the occasional "water mountain" to plow into.

[Torpex752]

I like take 1. The 637 & 688 class subs I served on didnt roll as much as 2 or 3 and since WWII Fleet boats were built with more stability on the surface I fiigure they should be more stable then a round bottom boat.

Frank

[DrBeast]

You know panthercules, it's damn hard to concentrate on the boat and the ocean when you have SUCH A MAJESTIC sunset dead ahead!

Anyway, I think I'll go for Boat 3, Ocean 2.

[Wilcke]

Originally Posted by panthercules

I want to get a few more responses to the poll before I explain anything about them, as I don't want to subconsciously influence people's choices, but once I get some more responses to the poll I will address this question in more detail.

All 3 videos are shot with the same sub in exactly the same weather conditions - sailing at ahead standard directly into the wind at a wind speed of 15 m/s (so, boat making about 11-12 knots into a headwind of about 28-30 knots).

Thank you for the info!

[Sailor Steve]

Okay! I didn't understand that all three were the same conditions until I read that last explanation.

Since in SH3 I always set the waves to 'x2', and since you described the absolute maximum conditions available in the game, of course I was forced to vote option #3 for both boat and water.

If I can't have a full-blown gale, at least I can pretend.

[ATR-42]

Originally Posted by Torpex752

I like take 1. The 637 & 688 class subs I served on didnt roll as much as 2 or 3 and since WWII Fleet boats were built with more stability on the surface I fiigure they should be more stable then a round bottom boat.

Frank

AH! finally! real, honest to god experience!!!! valuable input!!

(i still voted for #2)