EU 'should expand beyond Europe' ...

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Swede

I get around.

International man of racial slurs, thats what i am

There is a difference between being a nationalist and defending the right to your culture and being a nazi. I dont know how old you are and if there is hope for you.
I do feel that the current state of Western countries drives youth in the extreme political wiews. This is something that should be discussed but gets very little attention.

[Kipparikalle]

EU reminds me more and more of an Soviet Union, or an Third Reich.
I really don't like the way the EU is going, I wish that my country (Finland) would exit from this stupid alliance.

I don't like how they change our things here from some stupid meetings and parlaments.

I think things were better when we were not on any alliance, and stood neutral.

[mrbeast]

Guess who was a supporter of a Euopean Union.............Winston Churchill. The European Union has managed to end hundreds of years of European conflict so I guess its not all bad.

Plus in a world where we are surounded by economic and political giants whats better a motley crew of squabling countries or a union of nations?

Thats right.......individual countries!!!! Yes dam those Europeans with their higher standards of living, happier populations and low crime rates, working time directives, strait bananas etc etc! :hmm:

[Lurchi]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

[...]Plus in a world where we are surounded by economic and political giants whats better a motley crew of squabling countries or a union of nations?

Exactly!
I would even go so far to say that the European Union -apart from all its weaknesses- is our only chance of survival. It forms our countries and its 500 million inhabitants into the mightiest ecomical power on this world in a way that cannot be ignored.

Personally i would like to see a common EU foreign policy and also a European Army one day - while retaining our national identities and languages, this is no contradiction in my eyes.

[Peto]

It's very simple really:

1. Get nations to join together for economic reasons (it comes down to cash).
2. Create Cooperatives with economic Super Powers for stability.
3. Create laws which transcend borders and cultures (for the good of everyone of course).
4. Subjugate any nation that does not belong to The Cooperative--they have no choice now if they want to survive.
5. and you have a world run by a single governing council administrated by Corporations.

All you have to do is seed enough fear among the population that they will accept anything you do in the belief that you are making them "safe".

I wonder how long it will be before the US joins the EU?

:hmm:

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by Peto

It's very simple really:

1. Get nations to join together for economic reasons (it comes down to cash).
2. Create Cooperatives with economic Super Powers for stability.
3. Create laws which transcend borders and cultures (for the good of everyone of course).
4. Subjugate any nation that does not belong to The Cooperative--they have no choice now if they want to survive.
5. and you have a world run by a single governing council administrated by Corporations.

All you have to do is seed enough fear among the population that they will accept anything you do in the belief that you are making them "safe".

I wonder how long it will be before the US joins the EU?

:hmm:

So are you against the EU or for it? :hmm:

[Peto]

I believe in what it originally was meant to be. I am very leery of what it is becoming in the same way that I am leery how 70% of Americans can't get our politicians to respond. That is not Democracy in action--yet the 30% say they are spreading "Democracy" to the world?

What should we do? I wish I had a good answer for that. There is a fine line in the middle, a place where all can benefit. The chances of that line being chosen by those in power are slim. When money no longer matters to an individual, the only thing left is to gain is power. As power is concentrated in a very small group, who stands to gain? Them or the people who work for them? I'm not comfortable being viewed as a "servant" to any government ot Corporation.

Working for a goal is one thing. Working for someone else's--especially when the goal is obscure--is something we should all question.

Just My Opinion!

Peto

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Swede

I get around.

International man of racial slurs, thats what i am

Can I quote you on that?

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Can I quote you on that?

Sure, as long as its not in a court of law