I guess we can trust Turkey now

[JALU3]

You know the Church of today, is not the Church of yesterday . . . but it is still the Church. It has moderated itself alot since Vatcian II, and in many ways, it needed to lose its temperal powers, so it can refocus on theology. By no means is it as Liberal as Unitarians . . . but by no means as Conservative as Southern Baptists . . . and being of Man, it is fallible, regardless of what it says. However, that doesn't mean that the Church was the root of all evil, it was misguided at times, but has also preserved much.

Originally Posted by Catechism of the Catholic Church

Faith and science: "...methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are."

Maybe there needs to be a train of thought within their faith where individuals can recongize the fallibility of their religious organizations.

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by Catechism of the Catholic Church

Faith and science: "...methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, ..."

So if it does conflict with faith such as the fact of evolution, cosmology etc. what then? Do they admit faith is in error or do they make the claim the science is wrong?

Missed these forums even if they haven't missed me)

[Jimbuna]

On a lighter note....................Never trust anything that gobbles with a sharpened beak :hmm:

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

On a lighter note....................Never trust anything that gobbles with a sharpened beak :hmm:

Margaret Thatcher?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Margaret Thatcher?

Close....right gender anyway

[melnibonian]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Probably a skill evolved over many years borne out of necessity and self preservation mel :hmm:

I totally agree with that mate but if you claim High Moral Ground you should be making sure you're up to the standards you ask the others to be

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Yes, like contempt for not allowing oneself to be nuked by incoming Syrian Scuds. Bad, bad Israel!!!!!!

I totally agree with this point, but what about (Bad, Bad) Syria who does not want to be nuked by Israeli bombes as well (and those actually exist and they're not in planning or development stage)

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by melnibonian

I totally agree with this point, but what about (Bad, Bad) Syria who does not want to be nuked by Israeli bombes as well (and those actually exist and they're not in planning or development stage)

It is Syria that declared a perpetual state of war with Israel - not vice versa.

It is Syria that directly arms its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza to attack Israel.

It is very simple. If Syria disbanded their armed forces tomorrow, down to the last pistol, what harm would come to Syria from Israel by doing so? Absolutely none.

Now reverse the scenario.

[melnibonian]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

It is Syria that declared a perpetual state of war with Israel - not vice versa.

It is Syria that directly arms its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza to attack Israel.

It is very simple. If Syria disbanded their armed forces tomorrow, down to the last pistol, what harm would come to Syria from Israel by doing so? Absolutely none.

Now reverse the scenario.

Well it's these kind of thoughts that brought all the countries in the region to fight each other, but I do hope with all my heart that one day you will all learn and manage to live next to each other.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by melnibonian

Well it's these kind of thoughts that brought all the countries in the region to fight each other.

Rhetoric. Historic pulp fiction.

Tomorrow is another day.

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by melnibonian

Well it's these kind of thoughts that brought all the countries in the region to fight each other, but I do hope with all my heart that one day you will all learn and manage to live next to each other.

What? Muslim countries live in harmony with a civilised nation?

C'mon we're talking about people who's religious beliefs hold that, at best, they dissemble peaceful intentions until they can destroy their enemy.

[JALU3]

Originally Posted by kurtz

What? Muslim countries live in harmony with a civilised nation?

C'mon we're talking about people who's religious beliefs hold that, at best, they dissemble peaceful intentions until they can destroy their enemy.

Religion doesn't automatically mean that a person will destroy their enemy. However, if the religion teaches that what must be done, then it is far more likely.

[JALU3]

Secret Raid on Korean shipment

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by JALU3

Secret Raid on Korean shipment

Owned, again.

[The Avon Lady]

Meanwhile, in the darklands.........

Related: Heads up, USA!

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Meanwhile, in the darklands.........

Related: Heads up, USA!

Originally Posted by General Mohammad Hassan Koussechi told the official IRNA news agency.

Today... we have reached capacities that allow us to hit the enemy at a range of 2,000 kilometres," added Koussechi, who is co-commander of the elite force in the west of Iran

Did you read about Russia having developed the mother bomb of all bombs last week?

Guess where it was this week-end ... "For sale at a arms convention meeting", according to ABC news saturday edition. Go to ABC news if you don't believe me.

Who could afford such a bomb as big as that? "Oil has now reached a price of $82.00 a barrel" Just three years ago oil reached it's highest level ever at $55.00 a barrel.

Even the CIA can see war on the way, but which president will it be up to that's the question?