1.3 = No crush depths? - Page 2

Jmack · 07-20-07, 02:21 PM

i really like that the sh3 crush depth program would work on sh4

you guys know that one right ?

-Pv- · 07-20-07, 03:43 PM

"...every time hit the dive key blow crush depth it'll rise to crush depth..."

Istead of using the C od D keys, when you need to dive deaper than rated max, click on the expanded dive control circle. You will slowly dive to that depth and stay there.

-Pv-

Major Johnson · 07-20-07, 08:45 PM

The one feature I miss from SH1 is the ability to put the planes on dive and then level off when I want and not have to mess around with that stupid depth guage. How tough could it have been to program the up and down arrows to do just that?? Simply mind boggling!

-Pv- · 07-20-07, 09:24 PM

You can still use D, A, S to go up and down with nearly the same effect. Seems a pretty fine point.
-Pv-

Frederf · 08-13-07, 06:13 PM

I was in the TM1.5 sea trial where you are supposed to dive to find your sub's limits. Gato in 1942, dove down to 450' and nothing happened. Is there any way to set the D dive to another depth besides safety test depth? I think Dam. set the Balilo (sp) dive depth to well below safety depth since it's impossible to dive off the scale otherwise.

I'd be very happy to set my own D-key depth, maybe at 1000' and just trust myself to press A where I want it to stay.

Ducimus · 08-13-07, 06:26 PM

A Gato starts to take pressure damage at about 448 feet. Don't beleive me, go back and try it again, and stay in the conning tower. The lights will start to flicker.

In TM i reduced the rate at which pressure damage is incured by half of its orginal number. Crash speed was 2, i made it 1. In any event if you stayed at 450 feet, and kicked up the TC to a high rate, youd probably be greated with a death screen before too long.

The "D key" functionalty, is specified by the crush depth variable in the subs.cfg file. Whatever you specify here, is how deep the boat will go and it will not stop until it reaches that depth.

In TMaru, the balao is the ONLY boat where i specified the crush depth to be just above its ACTUAL depth,and not its saftey depth. I had to specify its crush depth as such, otherwise it would never go deeper then 450 feet due to dial limitations. Also It is the only boat which can go below 450 feet (granted you could make them all deep sea diving bells if you wanted to), So specifying crush depth on all other boats as such is unnecessary.

Another reason is i think its more fun when you don't know your acutal crush depth, because whenever you tell your boat to go deeper, you have to wonder if your pushing it too far. I really wish i didnt know a Gato starts to take pressure damage at 448 feet to be honest.

Frederf · 08-14-07, 05:34 PM

I had a Tambor or Gato at 450' for several minutes without any visible consequences during my deep diving test. I was kinda disappointed not to have the "oh ok that's the limit, emergency surface!" moment.

Ducimus · 08-14-07, 05:42 PM

There's a bug where the normal signs of pressure stress do not display in the control room. They do however display in the conning tower. If your normally in the control room, you'd never notice.

Again in TMaru, i reduced the speed at which hull stress damage occurs. (crash speed) In SH4, it already occurs at a lower rate then in SH3. By way of comparision to achieve the same low rate of stress damage im using. in SH3, id have to specify a crash speed of say, 0.3. In sh4, im using a value of 1.0!!!! Default crash speed in both games is 2.0.

So in otherwords you can go DEEP, but how long you can stay there depends on the HPs remaining on your hull. The more the HP loss, the faster the crush. Im gussing you could hang out deep for about 30 mins or so before your crushed like a beer can.

Redwine · 08-14-07, 05:50 PM

Just take a look into wich values you have into your files...

Plus take a look into the crashspeed, if you have a very low value, you can dive under the crash speed, and survive... this do not means you are not taking damage, you are, but at very low speed.

Edit...

Oohhps... dindt seen the Ducimus post, he clarify it very well for you !

peterloo · 08-15-07, 09:17 PM

Crush depth is NOT accurate

A intact Gar cannot go down to 450ft. (lol), tested with my real campaign as I evaded DDs (p.s. DD didn't do any damage on me)

I knew that something bad happened, so I asked my man to blow ballast and ahead flask, hoping to lure those DD to a gun duel which they may not want to engage, and use maneuver to travel to friendly bases.

At that moment... A death screen occured lol

And the screen is your boat ascending, suddenly losing power and descending to the abyssal space below

07-20-07, 02:21 PM	#16
Jmack Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 669 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	i really like that the sh3 crush depth program would work on sh4 you guys know that one right ? __________________ "victim's ? ... arent we all ? "

07-20-07, 08:45 PM	#18
Major Johnson Frogman Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jeresey Shore USA Posts: 288 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	The one feature I miss from SH1 is the ability to put the planes on dive and then level off when I want and not have to mess around with that stupid depth guage. How tough could it have been to program the up and down arrows to do just that?? Simply mind boggling! __________________ MJ! ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 AMD FX8350 8 Core 4.0 Ghz CPU GeForce GTX 560 Ti PCIx Video Card 8 GB Corsair Vengence RAM Rosewill 850W Power Supply

08-14-07, 05:50 PM	#24
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Just take a look into wich values you have into your files... Plus take a look into the crashspeed, if you have a very low value, you can dive under the crash speed, and survive... this do not means you are not taking damage, you are, but at very low speed. Edit... Oohhps... dindt seen the Ducimus post, he clarify it very well for you ! __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection" Last edited by Redwine; 08-14-07 at 06:00 PM.

08-15-07, 09:17 PM	#25
peterloo Commander Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 462 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Crush depth is NOT accurate A intact Gar cannot go down to 450ft. (lol), tested with my real campaign as I evaded DDs (p.s. DD didn't do any damage on me) I knew that something bad happened, so I asked my man to blow ballast and ahead flask, hoping to lure those DD to a gun duel which they may not want to engage, and use maneuver to travel to friendly bases. At that moment... A death screen occured lol And the screen is your boat ascending, suddenly losing power and descending to the abyssal space below __________________ Romeo is here, but where is Juliet? The 中国水兵 (Chinese Sailor) in subsim

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07-20-07, 03:43 PM	#17
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	"...every time hit the dive key blow crush depth it'll rise to crush depth..." Istead of using the C od D keys, when you need to dive deaper than rated max, click on the expanded dive control circle. You will slowly dive to that depth and stay there. -Pv-

07-20-07, 09:24 PM	#19
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	You can still use D, A, S to go up and down with nearly the same effect. Seems a pretty fine point. -Pv-

08-13-07, 06:13 PM	#20
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	I was in the TM1.5 sea trial where you are supposed to dive to find your sub's limits. Gato in 1942, dove down to 450' and nothing happened. Is there any way to set the D dive to another depth besides safety test depth? I think Dam. set the Balilo (sp) dive depth to well below safety depth since it's impossible to dive off the scale otherwise. I'd be very happy to set my own D-key depth, maybe at 1000' and just trust myself to press A where I want it to stay.

08-13-07, 06:26 PM	#21
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	A Gato starts to take pressure damage at about 448 feet. Don't beleive me, go back and try it again, and stay in the conning tower. The lights will start to flicker. In TM i reduced the rate at which pressure damage is incured by half of its orginal number. Crash speed was 2, i made it 1. In any event if you stayed at 450 feet, and kicked up the TC to a high rate, youd probably be greated with a death screen before too long. The "D key" functionalty, is specified by the crush depth variable in the subs.cfg file. Whatever you specify here, is how deep the boat will go and it will not stop until it reaches that depth. In TMaru, the balao is the ONLY boat where i specified the crush depth to be just above its ACTUAL depth,and not its saftey depth. I had to specify its crush depth as such, otherwise it would never go deeper then 450 feet due to dial limitations. Also It is the only boat which can go below 450 feet (granted you could make them all deep sea diving bells if you wanted to), So specifying crush depth on all other boats as such is unnecessary. Another reason is i think its more fun when you don't know your acutal crush depth, because whenever you tell your boat to go deeper, you have to wonder if your pushing it too far. I really wish i didnt know a Gato starts to take pressure damage at 448 feet to be honest.

08-14-07, 05:34 PM	#22
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	I had a Tambor or Gato at 450' for several minutes without any visible consequences during my deep diving test. I was kinda disappointed not to have the "oh ok that's the limit, emergency surface!" moment.

08-14-07, 05:42 PM	#23
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	There's a bug where the normal signs of pressure stress do not display in the control room. They do however display in the conning tower. If your normally in the control room, you'd never notice. Again in TMaru, i reduced the speed at which hull stress damage occurs. (crash speed) In SH4, it already occurs at a lower rate then in SH3. By way of comparision to achieve the same low rate of stress damage im using. in SH3, id have to specify a crash speed of say, 0.3. In sh4, im using a value of 1.0!!!! Default crash speed in both games is 2.0. So in otherwords you can go DEEP, but how long you can stay there depends on the HPs remaining on your hull. The more the HP loss, the faster the crush. Im gussing you could hang out deep for about 30 mins or so before your crushed like a beer can.