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Old 07-05-07, 05:38 PM   #16
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Buy an Antec 900 Case.

It has a 200mm top fan and comes with 3 speed adjustable 120mm fans. It also has room for two more 120 mm fans as well.


you shouldn't need liquid cooling unless your doing some serious overclocking.
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Old 07-05-07, 06:53 PM   #17
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And even then top end air coolers are on par with most water cooling setups while costing conciderably less.
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Old 07-05-07, 07:27 PM   #18
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Yeah, I'm still thinking a water-cooled system is where I'm headed, but the thing's gonna easily put a $600 dent in my account.
Eeee is it made from 24k gold? In Poland my system from the photo + fans cost 150 bucks top, add max (!) 50 bucks for a second heatsink... and we have computer stuff a lot more expensive than in US.
I was looking for something a little larger than what you showed.

An integrated 1000w water cooling system/case runs about $440
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=331

Then I'd need a CPU cooling block... another $30
...and dual GPU cooling blocks... probably bout $100

That puts it at about $570-ish
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Old 07-05-07, 07:36 PM   #19
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perhaps you could do a test. take your pc out of that terrible cabinet. take the side of the case off. and see if it crashes anymore. Have you gone dust hunting? that can work miricals. Try that and see if it helps.
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Old 07-05-07, 08:59 PM   #20
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No dust... it's sparkly.

It's been outta the cabinet with side panel off for a week now. I might try putting a huge indoor fan next to it on high and let it blow straight into the thing.

If it works that'll be my $20 cooling solution.
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Old 07-05-07, 09:56 PM   #21
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@ aaronblood, I purchased mine here as well as "the fridge" for my GPU:
http://coolpc.com.au/catalog/
On some video cards you can have a cooling fan on both sides!
The cost for the Vapochill micro was AU $72, probably around US $50.
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Old 07-05-07, 10:19 PM   #22
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No dust... it's sparkly.

It's been outta the cabinet with side panel off for a week now. I might try putting a huge indoor fan next to it on high and let it blow straight into the thing.

If it works that'll be my $20 cooling solution.
yeah see if that works could save you 540$. or you could just by a 8800gtx instead of the liquid cooling...
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Old 07-05-07, 10:25 PM   #23
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Not sure if you've thought of this but if you have it backed up the intake of the a/c system, then isn't that were the warm air goes in to get cooled? Wouldn't it be better to back it up to an output vent to get a cool airflow rather than a warm one?

these guys are UK based but they do ship internationally and seem to know what they are doing. I think they've got some cheaper solutions than $600 even with the forex.

http://www.water-cooling.com/
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Old 07-06-07, 12:07 AM   #24
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No dust... it's sparkly.

It's been outta the cabinet with side panel off for a week now. I might try putting a huge indoor fan next to it on high and let it blow straight into the thing.

If it works that'll be my $20 cooling solution.
How many internal fans do you have?

If you're running an SLI configuration you should have at least one 120mm fan blowing air on the the Graphics Cards(You can attach it to the HDD tray) to keep them cool. Also if you can move any PCI cards(Soundcard, Wi-Fi) down another slot to give it move airflow the better.


But I assure you, two more 120 mm fans in you case will solve your overheating problems.
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Old 07-06-07, 02:32 AM   #25
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I was looking for something a little larger than what you showed.

An integrated 1000w water cooling system/case runs about $440
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=331

Then I'd need a CPU cooling block... another $30
...and dual GPU cooling blocks... probably bout $100

That puts it at about $570-ish
Yeah, Koolance knows how to count money but I'm not that sure about efficiency. The most important parts are radiator and blocks right? Radiator is the same as mine + one more slot (there are 1-2-3 slot, thicker and thinner types). Difference in cost is marginal, depends more on where you intend to put your radiator. Open system - I prefer closed circuit as more efficient. Blocks from manufacturers like Koolance are very expensive and most of the time less effective than small, local manufacturers! But you need to dig a lot through the net.

I'm really wondering if this kit is 1000W... that is like buying a 600W sticker PSU that really has 350W... If they write - 3x faster water flow... sorry, but with such thin hoses, open circuit and water speeding like crazy it want work. Water needs time to take the heat than loose it through radiator.

All I want to say that yes, this kit will work, maybe even for you but I can't imagine SLI + CPU on this one... You pay a lot of cash for fancy stuff which is not the best performer.

As to 1000W. I don't rember as it was some time ago but my AthlonXP was 2500+ 1.45V (1.8ghz) and overclocked to 2.7ghz at 2.05V !!! It was like a heater, no thermal throttling etc. My CPU block turned out to be one of the most efficient in the world this time (2 years ago) and this cpu was running at my room temp at idle and up to 50° die temp during burn in (not cpu case tamp).

Now with my X2 and 6800GT I'm considering:
http://mcs.pc.pl/produkt1486.html
http://mcs.pc.pl/produkt1772.html
http://mcs.pc.pl/produkt1609.html

Forgive me links in polish but there are photos and product names. This kit should do for me as a quiet, elegant solution and service (dust) free. This is most important for me now. But as I don't have that case yet maybe I'll test my WC kit with X2 cpu?

Good luck, I was setting up my rig for 2 months digging the net!
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Not sure if you've thought of this but if you have it backed up the intake of the a/c system, then isn't that were the warm air goes in to get cooled? Wouldn't it be better to back it up to an output vent to get a cool airflow rather than a warm one?

these guys are UK based but they do ship internationally and seem to know what they are doing. I think they've got some cheaper solutions than $600 even with the forex.

http://www.water-cooling.com/
Yeah we sorta covered the "blow cold air on hot PC internals" idea...
condensation = bad

Thanks for the link... I'll probably be researching and testing a bit for the next week before actually buying anything.
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Old 07-06-07, 07:28 AM   #27
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No dust... it's sparkly.

It's been outta the cabinet with side panel off for a week now. I might try putting a huge indoor fan next to it on high and let it blow straight into the thing.

If it works that'll be my $20 cooling solution.
How many internal fans do you have?

If you're running an SLI configuration you should have at least one 120mm fan blowing air on the the Graphics Cards(You can attach it to the HDD tray) to keep them cool. Also if you can move any PCI cards(Soundcard, Wi-Fi) down another slot to give it move airflow the better.


But I assure you, two more 120 mm fans in you case will solve your overheating problems.
All I've got are the two GPU's on an ASUS A8NSLI Deluxe board. No extra sound or Wi-Fi cards.

I will take the advice of those who are suggesting more fans and do a little testing this weekend. My present situation is woeful; I've only got:

1) the fan that's installed internally to the power supply
2) the small fan on top of the CPU heatsink
3) one small fan on the front of the case to suck air in

No exhaust fans or fans close the GPU's

I may have to cut a hole in the side panel to mount another fan or two.
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Old 07-06-07, 07:32 AM   #28
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@ aaronblood, I purchased mine here as well as "the fridge" for my GPU:
http://coolpc.com.au/catalog/
On some video cards you can have a cooling fan on both sides!
The cost for the Vapochill micro was AU $72, probably around US $50.
Cheers.
I may very well end up getting one of these for the CPU and installing some fans to blow on the GPU's
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Old 07-06-07, 09:16 AM   #29
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or you could just by a 8800gtx instead of the liquid cooling...
That ain't a half-bad idea...
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Old 07-06-07, 11:27 AM   #30
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Call me old fashioned - - but........water + electric.:hmm: no thank you. One leak and your killer system is knackered.

I think the old ways are best, heatsinks and case/processor fans. Besides, a good fan can drop your internal temps to below room temp. (extreme)
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