Airbus = Bad airplane to fly

[perisher]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

... you Europeans can have your Airbus aircraft. I won't fly them ever again if at all possible.

I see the USMC is buying European when it replaces the MARINE ONE fleet.

[Skybird]

Subman = Bad passenger to fly

Chock,

I find it interesting what you say about the MCP in Airbus and the different cockpit philosophies. I'm no pilot, and can only watch at it from the better modules for flihgtsims on the market, but there are some packages both for Airbus and Boeings that are complex and representative enough for the overhead and frontal panels that you get an idea of the differences. And from that simulator perspective, I see it exactly like you. I was more busy with Boeing cockpits (767) first, and later found it difficult to adopt to the Spartan style and the changes in handling in the airbus 320. I cannot say if that is just because of the order in which I learned both planes, but I find the european cockpit philosophy - as you said - a bit anti-intuitive in some details, especially with the MCP and the flight management computer (was it named FMS or FMC? )

From a pro pilot's perspective I assume it is a great argument that with one certification for an Airbus, you get flight permissions for several other Airbus models as well, since their cockpits share so many similiarities. It also saves the carriers the money to re-instruct and retrain their pilots on different plane models.

I never flew myself in an airliner, and hopefully never will (small planes always, but no flying bricks please ), but my father did a lot of flights when his orchestra was touring, and they had both Airbusses and Boeings, as well as others. He found the carrier they used (and weather and pilot) to be the decisive variable concerning comfort, not the aircraft type.

By the numbers on paper, the A380's cabin will be the most silent, best-air conditioned cabin of all flying planes, with small advantages in seat space. So far carriers have not ordered the maximum number of seats possible, and the plane usually will be equipped with fewer additonal seats than there is additional space. this will give additonal 15-40% in individual seat space per passenger even in economy class, depending of specifications demanded by the carrier.

Available to first carriers in autumn 2007.

[wireman]

And proudly behind schedule.

[Skybird]

You would have boarded it if it would have been released one year ago...? Well, you better would have had not

[wireman]

My point exactly.

[gnirtS]

A brainless post from someone either biased or someone genuinely without a clue how things work.

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

k - Spent 12 hours on Airbus aircraft exclusively in the last 2 weeks, and I can honestly say - I'll never fly them again if at all possible. I couldn't get first class on such short notice, but even the first class seats weren't much better than coach anyway (cloth seats for first class??). I dunno. It got me where I was going, but everything in the plane is not only uncomfortable (Boeing provides much better seat options to its customers), but incredibly noisy. The isles are tiny to and every time the stewardess walked by, she bumped the hell out of me.

So why not blame the airline who is responsible for ALL those problems. Absolutely NOTHING to do with the aircraft. Seat pitch, width, numbers, decor, covering, other facilities, noise proofing is ALL down to the airline and nothing to do with the plane maker who provide an aluminium tube ready to be fitted with what the AIRLINE request.

The Aux APU also had an issue, so mechanics running up and down the plane trying to fix it.

One of the most common faults for all commercial airlines, be it boeing, airbus, McD or anyone else. Also the APUs come from many manufacturers and can be the same unit fitted on boeing or airbus. Again, absolutely nothing to do with the aircraft.

Anyway, you Europeans can have your Airbus aircraft. I won't fly them ever again if at all possible. I'll pay extra to fly Boeing and this is the first Airbus I've flown in 10 years with similar experiences to what I flew 10 years ago.

Thats fine but i doubt they'll miss someone as clearly poorly educated as that who cant distinguish between the aircraft and the airline.

They did fix the water dripping on my leg problem though - By drying the plane out so much with A/C that you practically get a nose bleed.
-S

So that'll be the same A/C parts fitted to boeings then.