Confession: I switched back to Metric

[dkbos]

Thanks BR... I will. I'm currently reading Silent Victory and it makes playing SH4 very enjoyable. The frustration I feel with every miss must be very similar to what those real-world skippers must have felt, so in that regard SH4 is a fantastic simulation . I just need to hone my speed estimation skills.

[Deep Six]

I'm still using imperial measurements, but hey I don't hit squat anyway!!!

So just maybe If I go back to Metric everything will work right, but I'll still hit squat!!

Deep Six

[CaptainCox]

Never even tried Imperial in game...was never good in math, and yards and stuff is way beyond me, always was!

[Hartmann]

i use metric because sh3 used it too, and always in my coutry the traditional system is metric

[joea]

I give up.

[zylark]

Metric here. Imperial units have never made any sense to me.

As for the devs getting some metric/imperial conversions wrong, well I can understand that. And they are not alone. Even NASA got it wrong with their Mars Climate Orbiter.

The mistakes proved to be fatal. The Mars climate orbiter probably burned up in the Martian atmosphere because technicians at Lockheed-Martin and at JPL used different units of measurement for navigation. Lockheed-Martin transmitted English units to JPL engineers, who thought they were getting metric units.

The devs at least have the chance to fix their mistake now that it is recognized.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by zylark

Metric here. Imperial units have never made any sense to me.

I think its one of those things where you have to be around it since childhood to be comfortable with. I work with the English system as i was brought up to call it, and the Metric system all the time, but if given the choice, i'll use the English/imperial system because it was always emphasized more then metric growing up. My only thing is, i dislike the scale some people use. Being an ex contruction worker of sorts, when i measure things, i'll say something is 96 and 3/8ths of an inch, where as someone else might say, 8 ft and 3/8's of an inch. Where as ill keep the scale in flat inch's because its quicker and easier and more accurate, someone else might raise the measurement up in scale.

If you use Imperial and have slight trouble with getting JUST the right ranges - especialy on longer ranges - here is the reason.

Steadimeter - figure given in the PK/TDC is meters

Sonar reports from Sonarman about Range to Target - given in meters in the text field.

Visual sighting reports from the WO - given in feet in the text field

Radar - given in an unknown unit in the A-scope :hmm:


For all ranges given in meters convert like this to yards

Range * 1.0X = yards (where X is one thousand of the range to the target... )

Eksamples are in place

target at 9000 meters - 9000m*1.09= 9810 yards

Target at 5000 meters - 5000m*1.05= 5250 yards

Target at 12 km - 12000*1.12=13440 yards


The reason is that tests have shown, that the difference between the real conversion and the ingame convertion gets bigger and bigger with increased distance.

Good thing is that the visual reports are spot on in feet......

[RocketDog]

Originally Posted by Mav87th

For all ranges given in meters convert like this to yards

Range * 1.0X = yards (where X is one thousand of the range to the target... )

Eksamples are in place

target at 9000 meters - 9000m*1.09= 9810 yards

Target at 5000 meters - 5000m*1.05= 5250 yards

Target at 12 km - 12000*1.12=13440 yards

The reason is that tests have shown, that the difference between the real conversion and the ingame convertion gets bigger and bigger with increased distance.

This is very discouraging. The sheer incompetence ans stupidity of the devs is astonishing.

RD.

[BBury]

Originally Posted by RocketDog

This is very discouraging. The sheer incompetence ans stupidity of the devs is astonishing.

RD.

RD, I think that's an unjustified judgement of the Dev's. Now, if you want to slam Ubi for pushing this out the door before it was ready I'll hop on that bandwagon.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by RocketDog

This is very discouraging. The sheer incompetence ans stupidity of the devs is astonishing.

RD.

Way to bring something to the discussion...

Anyhow... I was quite supprised to learn when the game was released that Imperial units were not available. I mean this "is" the pacific theater no ?

But seeing as they built upon the sh3 which is and should have been metric. It almost makes sense.

[Weigh-Man]

Originally Posted by Mudrik

Being a child of the 60's (well just about), I have grown up with both imperial and metric. Here in the UK:-

My own weight is always in stones.
My distance is always in miles but when asked for directions it is always "100 metres down to the right".
When I am doing DIY I measure in cms and metres, understand feet and inches to a point but am hopeless at converting.
When cooking I can use both grammes and ounces but again, struggle to convert.
As a kid the temperature was always in fahrenheit but now I only understand celsius.
My car does x miles to the gallon but I have to buy my petrol in litres.
In a pub the beer comes in pints but the spirits come in ml.
You can still buy cheese and meat in pounds and ounces.
A newcorn child is always measured in pounds and ounces.
When buying carpet it is usually sold by the yard.

It is not helped by the way the UK works. No-one seems to have yet settled on which system to use and it could be generations until we are all finally talking in metric.

I guess what I'm trying to say is well done to all you guys who can pick and choose which standard to use, I wish I could.

As a Technical Manager for a Weighing Equipment Company in the UK, I can confirm that Stones, Pounds and Ounces are actually an Illegal measurement and have been since 2003. Anyone using lb's and Ounces for selling goods of any kind in the UK and Europe is breaking the law.

Even hospitals come under the rules now, any scales bought since 2003 have to have Stones/pounds disabled, that said when was the last time you heard a newborn babies weight in kg

[NefariousKoel]

Originally Posted by Weigh-Man

As a Technical Manager for a Weighing Equipment Company in the UK, I can confirm that Stones, Pounds and Ounces are actually an Illegal measurement and have been since 2003. Anyone using lb's and Ounces for selling goods of any kind in the UK and Europe is breaking the law.

Even hospitals come under the rules now, any scales bought since 2003 have to have Stones/pounds disabled, that said when was the last time you heard a newborn babies weight in kg

They hang people for that?

[DirtyHarry3033]

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

They hang people for that?

I have it on good authority that that is why the colonies revolted and made a "Declaration of Independance"!

The crown was intent on introducing a new system of weights and measures that was totally incomprehensible to anyone and the rest is history :rotfl:

We Americans are much more tolerant of such nonsense, the fine American beer I'm drinking right now lists its contents as:

"12 Fl Oz (0.355 L)"

So the consumer can pick the measure he's most comfortable with Guess if this was England, the CEO of that brewery would be sitting on death row right now, if England had such a thing...

[zylark]

Well, the UK is part of the EU. And in the EU the smart Germans and the emotional French call quite a bit of the shots. And since both those nations (who usually cannot agree on anything) use metric, they've found a common cause against the UK, putting aside their own differences for a tiny bit, and are all to pleased about it. Thus the UK being enforced metric.

As well they should be