Did they try and pick up survivors? (GWX)

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by kurtz

I think those guys on the Murmansk run are the great unsung heroes of WWII. They endured terrible privations and enormous risks for a very dubious strategic goal, propping up the stalinist regime which in many ways was as bad as the nazis.

Mike.

On behalf of my father, thank you
I think it's a little ironic that approx 20 years ago he received a medal from the Russian ambassador in London in recognition of his service, yet received nothing from the British Government until 2 years ago (a small enamel lapel badge)

[Lzs von swe]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

On behalf of my father, thank you
I think it's a little ironic that approx 20 years ago he received a medal from the Russian ambassador in London in recognition of his service, yet received nothing from the British Government until 2 years ago (a small enamel lapel badge)

This makes me think of my late uncle (my fathers brother). He served in the Swedish merchant fleet during WW2. When he sailed on the Atlantic he was chased by German U-boats, when in the Baltic he was chased by Russian and British subs and planes, Sweden sold iron ore to Germany throughout the war. He never ever got any recognition whatsoever, and never asked for it either, from anyone

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Originally Posted by Lzs von swe

This makes me think of my late uncle (my fathers brother). He served in the Swedish merchant fleet during WW2. When he sailed on the Atlantic he was chased by German U-boats, when in the Baltic he was chased by Russian and British subs and planes, Sweden sold iron ore to Germany throughout the war. He never ever got any recognition whatsoever, and never asked for it either, from anyone

i got a cousin on my dads side who was a SS panzer officer. and he had a cousin who was a U-boat commander.
unfortunatly his U-boat got destroyed just before the ending of the war .

[gi_dan2987]

I just downloaded GWX (I know I know, have I been living under a rock this whole time?) and once in a while on patrol I will receive open frequency messages from various ships sending out SSS signals. How do I find their grid coordinates when the map does not have them? for example, I got a message from the SS Athena requesting survivor pickup at grid 45*33'N 23*12'W. any suggestions?

[HW3]

Those are actual messages from real life ships sent during the war. They are included for immersion purposes only.

[maillemaker]

AI ships are mad and they don't give a toss if they are firing at you and another ship gets in the way they keep firing and on some occasions they sink one of there own.

I have used this to my advantage early in the war when only a few convoy ships have guns. I will purposefully sail my uboat to put another merchant between me and the one shooting at me. Then I'll use my deck gun to attack others.

The other day when I nailed the Bogue-class carrier out of the center of a convoy, 3 of the destroyers all came to a stop on the opposite side of the carrier from me. It was like they were using the dead-in-the-water Bogue to shield themselves from me. It was an easy stern-shot into the Bogue to take her down.

Steve

[MRV]

As far as I can tell the merchants in real life even were unable to pick up survivors because of their lack of mobility. It takes around 2 km of distance to bring a cargo ship to stop, thats why they even have problems rescuing their own crewmen if they get washed overboard. Second, swimming survivors were not really good visible objects in the sea, a merchant trying to get close to a sinking ship would kill more sailors than its able to rescue.

They left this job over to the much more manuverable, better-equipped and trained escorts.

However, it would be nice if AI were scripted to do this. For example with 3 DD's on a convoi, 2 search for you and the third one is pulling ppl out the water, until she's done and joins the search for the attacker.

[Gargamel]

Originally Posted by MRV

s.

However, it would be nice if AI were scripted to do this. For example with 3 DD's on a convoi, 2 search for you and the third one is pulling ppl out the water, until she's done and joins the search for the attacker.

Actually, historically, warships were unders to not rescue survivors if there was a chance the threat was still there. There were a couple occasions when survivors who could have been easily saved that died because a warship did not stop to help, or they had to stop the rescue. I believe this happened during the Bismark sinking, along with other instances.

Originally Posted by Gargamel

Actually, historically, warships were unders to not rescue survivors if there was a chance the threat was still there. There were a couple occasions when survivors who could have been easily saved that died because a warship did not stop to help, or they had to stop the rescue. I believe this happened during the Bismark sinking, along with other instances.

I watched the interview of a RN officer from one of the cruisers, which was doing rescue work.
They got orders to vacate the area due to a percieved uboat threat.
They had to vacate with hundreds of survivors in the water.

The man was anything but heartless, as he couldn't finish the story without coming to tears.
Tough times for all.

[krashkart]

It must have been among the most awful of things to endure to have to leave survivors in the water like that. Ffffffuuuuuuu-


This is a good Resurrect-O-Thread.