Reasonable religion in brief

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Iceman

you say that like it is a good thing...

Skybird quotes a spirtually dead man's belief and believes it because he is spiritually dead ,as are you Avon Lady, if you do not believe that Christ is the Son of God made flesh and was crucifed on the cross and rose again the 3rd day and now sits at the right hand of God and will return again to execute judgement.

Paul or Saul was a chosen vessel of God[...] etc etc

Are you serious or just taking the piss?

If its a piss take, then its a good one, alto scarily convincing.

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by Letum

Are you serious or just takeing the piss?

I´m afraid he´s very serious about all that...

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

I´m afraid he´s very serious about all that...

Your right! I've just had a look at some of his other posts.

Thats some....errr...conviction you have Iceman.

[NEON DEON]

"Reasonable religion"

"Reasonable religion"

"Reasonable religion"

Now there is an oxymoron if ever I heard one!

[Letum]

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

"Reasonable religion"

"Reasonable religion"

"Reasonable religion"

Now there is an oxymoron if ever I heard one!

Nice one, I didn't spot that.

All religion requires a leap of faith at some point. That's what makes religion different from science and philosophy.
A "leap of faith" requires suspension of reason. Most obviously in the "is-ought gap" which can be applied to almost any part of any religion and not just in the usual way it is applied to morals.
In this way, no religion is "reasonable". (even my own religion - I'm not atheist believe it or not )

[U-533]

[quote=Iceman

Paul or Saul was a chosen vessel of God because of his intense persecution of God's people...I am guessing now to show such people as yourselves that no matter how much evil has been done a way back to Him was provided by the ransom of His sons life...

It is hard to kick against the cactus spikes no?

quote]


Yes ... and man-o-man were my feet tore up until I learned

Now it's not so hard to walk upright

[Takeda Shingen]

Kids! Hey, kids! Remember that talk we had about baiting a few days ago? Those rules still apply.

In other words, keep this 'reasonable' discussion of religion 'resonable' or this thread will be on the fast track to topical heaven.

Thanks,
The Management

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

In other words, keep this 'reasonable' discussion of religion 'resonable' or this thread will be on the fast track to topical heaven.

Thanks,
The Management

Hence why I asked for you guys (The Management) to remove this from my President Bush speech thread thankfully.

[Enigma]

Why is a person that looks forward to and believes Jesus will return and rid the world of all us "non-believers" (see: Mass killing? Rapture?) any better than a person who believes in killing people in order to get to a muslim version of heaven/paradise?

Fanaticism is fanaticism.

[fredbass]

It's really too bad that people have to use the church, religion, God, Jesus, Allah, or whoever as an excuse to do the things that they do.

Just be a good person and treat all with respect and you'll go to heaven if there is one.

[SUBMAN1]

I'm shocked that VON_CAPO hasn't found this thread yet!

-S

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Enigma

Why is a person that looks forward to and believes Jesus will return and rid the world of all us "non-believers" (see: Mass killing? Rapture?)

According to this theology, who is going to do the mass killing and under what circumstances?

any better than a person who believes in killing people in order to get to a muslim version of heaven/paradise?

These are binding commands and praiseworthy acts in Islam's eyes, conveyed both in Quranic verse and in Islamic law for Muslims to obey and carry out since Islam's inception 1400 years ago.

Where is there a theological equivalent elsewhere on the planet?

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by fredbass

It's really too bad that people have to use the church, religion, God, Jesus, Allah, or whoever as an excuse to do the things that they do.

Just be a good person and treat all with respect and you'll go to heaven if there is one.

Thats my belief too.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Skybird quotes a spirtually dead man's belief and believes it because he is spiritually dead ,as are you Avon Lady, if you do not believe that Christ is the Son of God made flesh and was crucifed on the cross and rose again the 3rd day and now sits at the right hand of God and will return again to execute judgement.

"Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the right honorable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon."
- Benjamin Disraeli

[Letum]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

These are binding commands and praiseworthy acts in Islam's eyes, conveyed both in Quranic verse and in Islamic law for Muslims to obey and carry out since Islam's inception 1400 years ago.

Where is there a theological equivalent elsewhere on the planet?

Hehe...where to start.......from the old and new testament...

Ritual Human Sacrifice Portrayed as Moral:
(Judges 11:29-40 NLT)

God requesting that people be burnt alive:
(Joshua 7:15 NLT)

Burning of Priests of different religions:
(1 kings 13: 1-2 NLT) and (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)

Burning of villages that contain non-believers:
(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Forced marriages to rape victims:
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

Rape & Infanticide by god:
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

Rape aided by god:
(zecharial 14: 1-2 NAB)

Kill people who dont listen to priests:
(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches:
(Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill the gay:
(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Fortunetellers are no better off:
(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Kill children who hit their father:
(Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Kill children who swear at their father:
(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

Kill for adultery:
(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Kill priest's daughters if they have sex:
(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

I could copy and paste these all day.

http://www.evilbible.com/Evil%20Bible%20Quotes.htm

There is plenty for fundamentalists to enjoy in both the Islamic and Christian/Judaic texts.