Australian Muslims Outrage at Reporting of "Raw Meat" Comments (Merged)

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Narcosis

A Muslim cleric's claim that women who do not wear the veil are like 'uncovered meat' who attract sexual predators

The sexual predators are the least of our problems. It's all these pesky flies that are driving us women batty!

[TteFAboB]

Superman was alot safer fearing kryptonite instead of the less rare Playboy magazine.

[HunterICX]

The problems isnt the uncovered meat, ( MEAT? how rude...Skin please)
the problem is the muslim getting too much with their noses in our lives. they need to back off!

and now to change the thing...I find it very insulting towards me when an Muslim women is talking to me with her face covered!

and why in school arent we allowed to cover our heads with an baseball cap and the muslim are allowed to wear those towels covering their faces..or whatever they call that.

[Skybird]

The link between supressive morality plus supressed sexuality, and totalitarianism and male brutality - almost proverbial, in my eyes.

That sucker should do some reading: wilhelm Reich "The mass psychology of fascism". He thouroughly analyses - by example of Marxism and Fascism - how fascism, or in a wider understanding: totalitarianism - can be understood as the logical fallout of a hardened, repressice character structure that for reason of whatever failed or flawed morality refuses to accept oneself's sexual drives and desires.

The relation of Islam to sexuality I always have seen as deeply sick and repressive. Writes Istiaq Ahmed, professor for politcal science in Stockholm, (I re-quote him by a German book): " 'Segregation' is something all Muslims nations have in common. Wehre males and females are kept seperate from each other, sex does not disappear from their lives, but it rises into their heads - and stays there. If God really wanted sex-less beings inhabiting Earth, he would have send angels down to earth and would have kept human beings in heaven."

The same professor also refers to that Google-analysis of what nations produce the most clicks on porno-websites, I referred to it in a joke thread some weeks ago. I now have the complete top ten:

1. Pakistan
2. Egypt
3. Vietnam
4. Iran
5. India
6. Marocco
7. Indonesia
8. turkey
9. Saudi-Arabia
10. Poland

He questions the order, though, saying that internet-access in Saudi-Arabia and Iran are much more restricted than in Pakistan and Egypt. If people in these four countries would have similiar access to the internet, Iran and Saudi-Arabaia would lead that list before Pakistan and Egypt.

He explains further about the backwardness of Islamic societies and their supressive morales: " If we would modernize our understanding of sexuality and make it more humane, we would be able to use our energies in a productive and creative way. By not doing so, we foster frustration, which unloads in extremism and terrorism. Yes, I believe there is a social-sexual fundament for the current rise of extremism and terrorism and the muslim world."

I believe that, too. but I am more pessimistic about the possebilities of "modernizing" Islam's sexual morale. It still sees females as inhuman creatures not really being humans, but being linked to satan and thus being an expression of satan'S energy - which (male) man must supress by controlling females so that their energy cannot "explode". Enforced sex, rape, no rights for females, and totalitarian control of intersexual relations on a communal level are just expression and logical consequence of a mind that preaches and says prayers during sex that should ban satan and that understand sex as controlling women's satanic energy and save society from it. That's why this braindead cleric is seeing the male opressors as the victims of female charms. the victim - women - are declared the attacker, the danger, the threat. In it's own queer way, it is logical. No wonder then that I had to read repeatedly in books that throughout history it has been ruled that sex with a woman is even more sinful than having sex with animals, or even dead human bodies. Nothing can illustrate the deeply rooting fear and totally perverted relation Islam's view of man and life has when it comes to sexuality and the relation between both sexes.

A related essay:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...443678,00.html

Originally Posted by HunterICX

the problem is the muslim getting too much with their noses in our lives. they need to back off!

Islam is a Political, Legal and Religious movement. The problem is most people think it as just a religion. That is totally wrong.

They want to submit (Meaning Islam) every one, either peacefully / manipulatively or by force to their way. If it takes decades or a generation they will try.

This is why we see massive problems within western cultures regardless if their is Hindu, Jews, Christians, Buddhist or the rest mixing peacefully amongst us. It will always be the Muslim plotting a massive killing spree or cutting heads off people and filming it. No other religion does this.

They want to have sharia law, Islamic governments to rule every one..

Hence the saying "Clash of Civilizations" . Muslims are the biggest threat to our way of life since Communism and the Nazis.

[Skybird]

Islam is ...

Originally Posted by Narcosis

the biggest threat to our way of life since Communism and the Nazis.

I disagree. If Hitler still will be remembered in 1500 years remains to be seen, and in communist dictatorships you have seen anything but true communism at work, it was the starting sparkle maybe, but soon left the ideal behind - no way you can get Marx and Stalin under one hat. The first idea about communism leads back to the amncient Greeks anyway, and has not caused supression and violence back then. It is an utopia, understood as something that is hoped and wished for, but will never be reached.

The violent and supressive influence of Islam, however, is spreading since the 7th century, continously. I therefore see it like this, that neither the Nazis nor the Stalinists were the biggest threat ever, but that Islam indeed is the greatest and most threatening cultural catastrophe that ever came upon mankind.

It so far has consumed and therefore annihilated almost any other culture it has ever come into contact with. the military fighting spirit born by Islam is superior to the fighting spirit of others, for it teaches the love for the beyond, while most others prefer to love the current life and value it, while fearing the beyond, death. Different to the Borg, it does assimilate only material ressources and pragmatic knowledge, no mental, cultural and intellectual fundamental ressources on whose fertility pragmatic knowldge and material ressources had been raised by the submitted culture. Islam's creative self-dynamic is exytremely limited. Beyond these two differences, it's attitude towards non-islamic factions is uncompromisingly intolerant, aggressive and very much like the Borg indeed.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

The problems isnt the uncovered meat, ( MEAT? how rude...Skin please)
the problem is the muslim getting too much with their noses in our lives. they need to back off!

and now to change the thing...I find it very insulting towards me when an Muslim women is talking to me with her face covered!

and why in school arent we allowed to cover our heads with an baseball cap and the muslim are allowed to wear those towels covering their faces..or whatever they call that.

Not defending anything, but it goes both ways. I remember watching movie stars from the US putting their noses into the business of Afganistan and the plight of women there long before we invaded. No its just coming full circle is all. Funny to watch how this all plays out. I also remember myself thinking that they should just leave them alone since it is not their business.

-S

[fredbass]

Ladies, if you get tired of being treated like that, come over to my place in America. I'll give you respect and make love to you twice a day. Three times on Saturday if you can pull me away from playing SH3.

I'll even help you do the dishes.

[TteFAboB]

On this topic it is interesting to remember that the Middle East Allied with both the Nazis AND Communists. Governments come and go, nation-states come and go, tyrants come and go but the big black box won't budge, so they side with what they consider to be the least worst infidel.

The three can all be a combined. You've already lost by the time your choice is between Sharia and the Party.

[Rockstar]

True Believers chop off another head, this time a 14 year old boy.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52699

So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the obligatory charity, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. -Surah 9:5 (Shakir)

If you encounter those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks -Surah 47:4 (Khalifa)

Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Matthew 24:9

All this I have told you so that you will not go astray. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. John 16:1-4

violent scuffles outside the London court where muslims face race hate charges.


Mizanur Rahman was one of four people arrested outside the Danish Embassy in Sloane Street, West Kensington after allegedly calling for the killing of British and American soldiers as well as Danish nationals.

Web designer Rahman, who has a wife and child in Bangladesh, called for 'another 9/11' in Europe.

Hang on, this guy lives in Bangladash !!!! Send the ********* BACK their then.


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...239381,00.html

[KevinB]

Abosolutely! And if we ranted on about them, they would burn our embassies down and issue Fatwas.

[TteFAboB]

Get the names of the 25 protesters published by some blog so that these people can be ostracized in their Mosques.

Imams and Muftis are clear: apostates must face death. Very well, I declare these people apostates of Islam and followers of the Church of Izzadeen, their polytheist Gods are the TNT, the Megaphone and the God of Terrorism, not to mention that they've adopted life in the land of the infidel and rejected Sharia by submitting to the infidel's legal system.

Really, we should use their own laws against them.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Get the names of the 25 protesters published by some blog so that these people can be ostracized in their Mosques.

Imams and Muftis are clear: apostates must face death. Very well, I declare these people apostates of Islam and followers of the Church of Izzadeen, their polytheist Gods are the TNT, the Megaphone and the God of Terrorism, not to mention that they've adopted life in the land of the infidel and rejected Sharia by submitting to the infidel's legal system.

Really, we should use their own laws against them.

Best post on the subject I have read yet!

[bookworm_020]

If he doesn't like the laws and values of the country he decided to come too, then he can move to a country that has laws that suit his views, like Sudan!