More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent (Global warming merged)

[Enigma]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science...ing/index.html

The study, to be released Friday in the journal Science, is the first large-scale analysis of environmental changes as contributing factors in the mortality of coniferous forests.
The data for this research was gathered by generations of scientists over a 50-year period at multiple sites in Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and southwestern British Columbia. Seventy-six forest plots, all more than 200 years old, were monitored by scientists doing some of the most rudimentary research -- counting trees.

[August]

The good news is there will be plenty of seasoned timber for my wood stove. Muahahahahaha!

[baggygreen]

One must still be careful to attribute this directly to GW.

For example - was there any increase in diseases amongst the trees? Was there a particularly large number of trees planted at the same time, all of which have reached the end of their lives at the same time? can the losses be attributed to runoff from nearby property containing pesticides etc? Has it been a dry period compared to the previous couple of hundred years or so?

One must rule out all other possibilities before calling foul

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by August

The good news is there will be plenty of seasoned timber for my wood stove. Muahahahahaha!

Win!

BTW just so everyone knows. Trees make VERY LITTLE of the oxygen we inhale. By far most of it comes from algae in the ocean.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Are the trees dying faster than they are being replaced?
What's the average age of the trees when they die, and is that number changing?
Has other vegetation in the area been affected? Is it affecting the trees?
If a tree falls in the forest and someone arbitrarily blames it on global warming, does it do us any good?

[August]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Sure, but trees are still useful for other purposes like harboring various forms of life and providing construction material etc. If people don't take care of them then it's a limited resource just like oil or whatever else.

Sort of. Trees are a lot more renewable than oil. 20-30 years to grow another one as opposed to what 1-2 million years to make oil?

[SteamWake]

Rather than start a new thread I add to this one...

"Alot of the 'green' stuff is turning into a giant scam"

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...rue&print=true

[August]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Sure, but that's assuming a minimum level of care. If you kill a variety of tree it won't just re-grow out of nothing. And even if there's still roots, 20/30 years is still quite long when your business on it.

Actually I have been a tree farmer for 5 years now. My Forrester assures me that the trees on my property in Maine will be worth between 10-30K per acre in 5-15 years depending on how much pruning and thinning I do.

But nothing in that article though implies that there is a complete die off and believe me there are a LOT of woods out that way.

[Onkel Neal]

Because I know someone will post this, may as well go into the Global Warming thread.

Weather Channel Founder Blasts Gore Over Global Warming Campaign

I neither agree not disagree with the content, merely pointing it out.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, really, imagine when he was a kid on the playground.

[AVGWarhawk]

It is an interesting article. It was even more interesting to see Al Gore...Goreacle sweat it out yesterday while being questioned by the Senators. The Goreacle has spoken