The Pentagon attack on 9/11

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

ok to answer most questions asked by AWSnut101

1. the reason why we dont know who actually did it is because the government wont release anything i mean if i was covering up the greatest conspiracy ever recorded that resulted in the deaths of over 3000 people would i release it so i get sent to jail and probably executed and start a global war?? i wouldnt release it if my life depended on it. theres the situation with the american government.

btw pentagon and WTC are related jeez how could ask a question like that, they were both targets, and were both locations of the deaths of many people. i included the wtc in this topic because 1. more people died in the wtc then in the pentagon, 2. since the wtc was a economic building and if the wtc wasnt attacked there would be no economic impact like there was. the wtc was the pinnicale of the conspiracy of the 9/11 because it took them alot of resources to bring down the worlds tallest buildings.

edit* its back some glitch i guess

how do you know that the government isn't telling you the truth?

[nelson1985]

since when was it ever good to trust government?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

And even then, Please explain to me why our government would destroy our OWN, most valuable buildings economy wise, and launch a missile at our OWN military HQ only to go to war within a year? Those two contradict themselves.

asw if you can get into the cia and release all those documents and tapes that were never released then god bless you. if you cant then take the cold hard reality of 9/11 and accept it.


ook governments can do anything these days especially the US. they had the balls to kill a few thousand people bring down the wtc buildings. if everyone here watches every second of that movie i posted earlier it explains every single little nook cranny detail on how the towers fell and why, it shows building 7 clearly standing and and it being brought down in a controlle implosion.


another thing is this there was a 20hr out of control open air fire on a hotel that was going on for 20 hrs and the metal didnt fail,(ref. video) now the fires in the wtc went on for 19 min then the towers collapsed. taking into the effect of the initial impact, which most of the energy was diffused when the buildings which where designed to sway after an impact did infact sway.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

how do you know that the government isn't telling you the truth?

because of physical scientific evidence proving thouroughly on how the 9/11 attacks really happened.

edit* boy o boy has this thread grown fast

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

ook governments can do anything these days especially the US. they had the balls to kill a few thousand people bring down the wtc buildings. if everyone here watches every second of that movie i posted earlier it explains every single little nook cranny detail on how the towers fell and why, it shows building 7 clearly standing and and it being brought down in a controlle implosion.

How in God's name does that prove that the government was responsible?

Originally Posted by nelson1985

true but im just trying to make a point here not debate statistics.

Perhaps if you would clearly state your point all would be willing to address your point and give altenatives. Then all would be good.

I congratulate you on allowing every one to disagree with you and standing your ground. Good on ya!!!

[baggygreen]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

METAL MELTS AT 2600 F normal open air fires cannot burn that hot only explosives/thermite can melt steel PLZ WATCH THE VIDEO ASWnut 101
melting point proof:http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html
JET A-1
Flash point: 38 °C
Autoignition temperature: 210 °C
Freezing point: -47 °C (-40 °C for JET A)
Open air burning temperatures: 260-315 °C (500-599 °F)
Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C (1796 °F)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB and it will explain the fires and the metal and fuel an impacts

OOOOO nice, we have figures for the melting point of steel. Im impressed. Hell it even came from that font of all knowledge, wikipedia.

What im less impressed with is the ignorance shown.

The melting point of steel is yes, around 2500 or 2600 degrees. That does NOT mean that up until that point, the alloy is impervious to any sort of damage. 2600 (taking the upper limit) is where it becomes molten. At lesser temperatures, the steel is weakened! all of a sudden, you've got weakened steel holding up 30 floors.. its not so tough to believe that fire weakened the structural integrity of the steel now, is it???

As for that feature-length video, well i turned it off after about 15 minutes.
"If glass, steel and concrete dont burn, what fed the fire?" Hmm let me think. WTC. lots of accounting and other financial firms. what do all firms dealing with money have in common? they like paper, and lots of it.

Lets think, what else is in an office block? carpet? desks? chairs? how about curtains, too?

That, as well as the 'boom boom' that they loved going on about, led me to turn it off because it was clear they were looking for anything at all. when the camera they replayed over and over panned up to the tower, you could see that it had already begun collapsing, before the boom boom. as for the boom boom being explosions, dont you think that large areas of floor falling a few metres each time wouldve made just a bit of noise??

[nelson1985]

also Silverstein ship the steel to china and had them destroyed

[nelson1985]

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

How in God's name does that prove that the government was responsible?

It doesn't. Nor does it explain why a government that "can do anything these days" including pulling off "the greatest conspiracy ever recorded" can't silence some nut conspiracy theorist. Bottom line here is he doesn't know what he's talking about.

He's proof of PT Barnums famous quote about suckers being born every minute. Y'see he wants to believe, therefore he will cling to any half baked theory that comes along.

[baggygreen]

Originally Posted by nelson1985

also Silverstein ship the steel to china and had them destroyed

perhaps it could be done cheaper there than in the states, including shipping costs? Thus far, each argument you n elite have put forward is able to be refuted.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

plus he got a few billion dollars off the lives of over a few thousand people. btw watch the whole video and you will learn not every bit of information is in the first 15 min jeez.

Edit* can you please refute the evidence in the video then?

[baggygreen]

i told you, the sheer desperation shown by the film-makers warrants no further viewing. They're grasping at straws, and very very thin ones at that!

*Edit: i just refuted 2 points made within 15 mins. that would statistically make for 6 large points, all of them easily explained without conspiracy throughout the length of the film if they're as flimsy as the first 2.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

Originally Posted by baggygreen

i told you, the sheer desperation shown by the film-makers warrants no further viewing. They're grasping at straws, and very very thin ones at that!

then why would the filmmaker remortgage her house and sell almost everything she has to make this film.

[baggygreen]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

then why would the filmmaker remortgage her house and sell almost everything she has to make this film.

perhaps to gain 15 minutes of fame, in the hope of being given a film in hollywood? a lot more likely than you may think.


Or....


maybe she sold up house so that the cia and "kgb" who were responsible cant find her anymore!111!!!one!!eleven!