[WIP] Playable Jyunsen B Submarine New Mod

[The Fishlord]

Originally Posted by keltos01

did you check :
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq30-8.htm

the interrogation of one of the IJN submarine aces Commander Moshi tsura Hashimoto (moshi... in one word but if I write it whole I get mo****sura..)

I think his name would be better than Bernard von Unfal which means accident !

I know him-He sank the USS Indianapolis and made the most of his embarrassment of the navy during McVay's court martial. Certainly that was not an accident-he said zigzagging would not make any difference in sinking that fat juicy unescorted battlecruiser...

Finally-some nice advanced subs to play with, now all we need is the ability to launch a recon plane!

[Takao]

@GerritJ9,

I found this list on the net for Japanese naval ranks.
http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/ranks.txt
from the parent site: http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/

I'll keep looking for more information and report any that I find.

[Takao]

@GerritJ9,

I went through my books at home and drew a blank. However I came across the reply over on the J-aircraft forums about Japanese ranks in WW2.

Re: IJA and IJN Ranks [FAQ candidate]

Posted By: David_Aiken <mailtoavid_Aiken@hotmail.com?subject=Re: IJA and IJN Ranks [FAQ candidate]>
Date: Wednesday, 2 August 2000, at 10:27 a.m.

In Response To: Re: IJN Ranking System (EMP_204_Rik)

Hi Rik,
Once upon a time, the IJN enlisted ranks were posted and was an early FAQ. These got lost in the ether. Recent requests, yours included, have asked for these again. Checked your web page and note that you have used IJA collar tabs with the IJN ranks. This may be remedied using AIR NEWS mag (August 1944), or the book Japanese Uniforms and Equipment (also out of print), or other sources.
Japanese Officer ranks are the same for IJA and IJN. The point of difference is in translation. If we speak of British equivalent terms, then the translation is somewhat different than American terms. The following uses American terms:
Taisho = General or Admiral
Chujo = Lt General or Vice-Admiral
Shosho = Major General or Rear Admiral
Taisa = Colonel or Captain [IJN liked to use "Daisa" instead!]
Chusa = Lt Colonel or Commander
Shosa = Major or Lt Commander
Taii = Captain or Lieutenant
Chui = First Lieutenant or Lieutenant (JG)
Shoi = Second Lieutenant or Ensign
It becomes a problem to compare enlisted ranks with American enlisted ranks. There were also changes in the Japanese Naval enlisted ranks after select dates.
IJA Enlisted Ranks
Juni = Warrant Officer
Socho = Sergeant Major
Gunso = Sergeant
Socho = Corporal
Heicho = Lance Corporal (leading Private)
Jotohei = Superior Private
Ittohei = Private First Class
Nitohei = Private
IJN Enlisted Ranks (pre-June 1941)
Joto (Koku) Heiso = (Air) Chief Petty Officer
Itto (Koku) Heiso = (Air) Petty Officer First Class
Nito (Koku) Heiso = (Air) PO2c
Santo (Koku) Heiso = (Air) PO3c
Itto (Koku) Hei = (Air) Airman 1c
Nito (Koku) Hei = (Air) Airman 2c
Santo (Koku) Hei = (Air) Airman 3c
IJN Enlisted Ranks POST-June 1941
Joto (Hiko) Heiso = (Flight) Petty Officer
Itto (HIko) Heiso = (Flight) PO1c
Nito (Hiko) Heiso = (Flight) PO2c
Santo (Hiko) Heiso = (Flight) PO3c
Itto (Hiko) Hei = Flyer 1c
Nito (Hiko) Hei = Flyer 2c
Santo (Hiko) Hei = Flyer 3c
AFTER November 1942, three changes:
the (Hiko) Heisocho = (Flight) Warrant Officer
was placed above the CPO;
and an (Hiko) Heicho = Assistant (Flight) Petty Officer
and a Joto (Hiko) Hei = Chief Flyer REPLACED the Santo (Hiko) Heiso
The additional term "Koku" or "Hiko" determines the aeronautical nature of the aviator job. This is "understood" in many aeronautical texts and thus eliminated.
The difference between Japanese Naval ratings is similar to US Navy ratings. A Japanese Seaman First Class, for example, has crossed anchors on his rank badge; the Japanese Flyer First Class has crossed aircraft; the Japanese Mechanic First Class has crossed wrenches; etc.
The range of NAVAL aviators in combat is usually "Flyer 1c" and above. Those lower ranks of "Flyer 2c" or "Flyer 3c" are ranks seen in training schools. Again usually the top Naval flying officer on an aircraft carrier is "Hikotaicho" or "Kokutaicho" in land units with the rank of Lieutenant Commander, with the Commander job slot going to a non-flying officer (usually with aviator experience) as "Hikocho". However, as the war progressed, several "Hikocho" positioned men were placed in combat flight "slots" as "Hikotaicho" or "Kokutaicho".

HTH,
Cheers,
David Aiken
Director
Pearl Harbor History Associates, Inc.

[keltos01]

here is the first japanese officer face :

[ModMaster]

I downloaded your mod and started a campaign, but when I pressed start, the game crashed. also, using a custom mission of my own, when I went to the bridge station (for deck gun AI targeting), my view angle seemed to be from someone sticking his head out the hatch. am I doing something wrong? I am using ony the one mod.

[keltos01]

It is for SH4 ver 1.5 Uboot add-on, do you have it installed?


FEEDBACK anyone ???

[keltos01]

managed to import the Sen Toku's 3 inch with sailors in my Kaichu mod. Will repreat the sequence for the Jyunsen B later on.

[ModMaster]

Originally Posted by keltos01

It is for SH4 ver 1.5 Uboot add-on, do you have it installed?

yes, I have u-boat. my view is somewhere below the conning tower deck, although the tower itself is in the same place.

[peabody]

Originally Posted by ModMaster

yes, I have u-boat. my view is somewhere below the conning tower deck, although the tower itself is in the same place.

I didn't try the bridge before, but it's doing the same on mine. Outside looks great, inside is the way it should be but from the bridge I am looking under the conning tower. I am eye level with your deck gun.

Peabody

[keltos01]

erm, I knew that jsut didn't have time to fix it yet.µ
the uzo has to be on top of the tower, as it has an episcope, the bridge is inside the tower where the windows are, but how do you change the height ?

[keltos01]

hi all,
I fixed the diveplanes both fore and aft, the rudder's in place too. The sub now dives better than before. I readjusted the specs in the . sim to have those of a Jyunsen B, same in the cfg file.

The torpedo tubes caps are at their right place, the torp tube dummies have been adjusted so that the torpedoes come out of their assigned tubes too.

I darkened the tower so that it wouldn't stand out so much anymore, so I thought it was time to release a new version.

I took Takao's advice regarding the Kaiten torpedoes, they only appear in September 1944 now (cost 500) then decrease in price till the actual first known use of them on November 20th 1944.

Known issues :
Command deck too low
deck gun still german 105mm not jap 5.5 inch
AA still typ 18 turret
occlusion map and textures to be worked at some more.

Enjoy ! Keltos 01

ps for an ai boat we could place a plane on deck like the Sen Toku ? Miner ?

ps2 the IJN Torpedo mod has a new version for download as well with the later date kaiten.













link :
http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Jyuns.../fileinfo.html

[Nokia]

Looks good ! Going to give it a try tomorrow.

[miner1436]

Check out my last post in the AI sen toku thread regarding the AI sub. As for planes, im sure you could put a dummy on the catapult but I have no idea how to make it AI.

[peabody]

[quote-Keltos] deck gun still german 105mm not jap 5.5 inch[/quote]

The Jap 5.5 has a shield around it, I didn't know if you knew that.

Peabody

[keltos01]

Here it goes :
I've made a new mod with three stand-alone IJN submarines (the IJN torpedo mod is included, with Takao's remarks about the kaiten as well):

Jyunsen B
Kaichu
Kaidai

I am working on the Sen Toku again, this time it has separate hull and tower, I hope to implement it soon, then I'll finish off the Ko Hyoteki I started working on lately, then who knows ? a mine laying sub ? if anyone can make mines that do work (give you credit when a ship is sunk)

As I could'nt find a blueprint/3d model of the Kaidai it has the IXD2 hull but a real new conning tower.

Campaigns are available from Penang only (so far).

I haven't tested the compatibility with operation Monsun yet, but as IJN subs operated in the Indian Ocean as well I think it would be nice to include them there.

Jyunsen B type submarine :



Kaichu type submarine :



Kaidai type 4 submarine :




Download link :
http://files.filefront.com/IJN+Sub+m.../fileinfo.html