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Old 02-10-10, 06:30 PM   #151
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Yes! The SARGO is the interior I have been waiting for!

Thank you Vickers!
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Old 02-11-10, 12:22 AM   #152
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Nice work as always vickers, Sargo based on a gato class boat though? curious
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Old 02-11-10, 07:39 AM   #153
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Nice work as always vickers, Sargo based on a gato class boat though? curious
since the gatos are the only ones still alive to get
good pics from, they're all fleetboats.
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Old 02-11-10, 12:04 PM   #154
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... they're all fleetboats.
Technically from my understanding they are all fleet boats even going back to the P-class. The P-class had a welded hull and even had AC. Certainly the SALMON / SARGO classes are fleetboats.

This interior work is outstanding Vickers.

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Old 02-11-10, 12:17 PM   #155
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Nice work Vickers, been waiting for this one. Sargo's are my favorite boats
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Old 02-11-10, 12:49 PM   #156
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Porpoise classes had riveted hulls actually.I learned this when I read the book "Luck of the Draw" by Captain Kenneth Ruiz.Ruiz served aboard the aging USS Pollack in 1943.Thinking Sargo and Salmons were prob riveted also because I believe Ruiz said the Gato's were the first fleetboats to have welded hulls, thus the reason their test depths were 300 feet instead of 250 feet like previous classes.
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Old 02-11-10, 01:33 PM   #157
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with the SALMON i delivered hi-res lightmaps,
to activate them you have to manually delete
the following files in \Data\Textures\TNormal\tex

Salmon_CR_Details01_LM3_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CR_Details02_LM4_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CR_Details03_LM5_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CR_LM1_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CR_LM6_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CR_Pipes01_LM2_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CT_Druck_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CT_Gear_LightMap.dds
Salmon_CT_Pipes_Acces_LightMap.dds

(notice the old ones are .dds and new ones are
.tga, i could not find a good quality .dds setting
without insane file sizes.)

difference:
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Old 02-11-10, 02:42 PM   #158
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Porpoise classes had riveted hulls actually.I learned this when I read the book "Luck of the Draw" by Captain Kenneth Ruiz.Ruiz served aboard the aging USS Pollack in 1943.Thinking Sargo and Salmons were prob riveted also because I believe Ruiz said the Gato's were the first fleetboats to have welded hulls, thus the reason their test depths were 300 feet instead of 250 feet like previous classes.
I'm sure there were still some rivets however a quick Google search shows many sources to back up welded construction for the P-class - and at the top of my "personal list" is Hondo's "Valor At Sea" website that jumped out at me (who I consider a well researched and reliable source)

From: http://www.valoratsea.com/boats2.htm
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.... The P-Class submarines, first commissioned in 1933, marked a tremendous improvement over the previous candidates. With a forward speed of 19 knots and a range of 10,000 miles. it was not nearly perfect, but it was very close. The technique of welded construction, first seen to a lesser degree in the C's, was now to be fully implemented in the P-Class.....
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Oop's - sorry Vickers, - I know this is an interiors topic but I have carefully looked at your detailed interiors and thought I saw a bead near one of the bulkheads.....
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Old 02-11-10, 04:23 PM   #159
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Porpoise classes had riveted hulls actually.I learned this when I read the book "Luck of the Draw" by Captain Kenneth Ruiz.Ruiz served aboard the aging USS Pollack in 1943.Thinking Sargo and Salmons were prob riveted also because I believe Ruiz said the Gato's were the first fleetboats to have welded hulls, thus the reason their test depths were 300 feet instead of 250 feet like previous classes.
The thing to keep in mind with SH4's Porpoise class is that, in reality, there were three sort of sub-classes in this group:
  • SS-172 and SS-173, the 'literal' Porpoise class, were an enlargement of the Cachalot class and the last American submarines with a full double hull. Both boats were constructed by Portsmouth. These two were riveted.
  • SS-174 and SS-175 were the Shark class boats, built by Groton. These boats were all-welded and featured a partial double hull.
  • SS-176-181, the Perch class, were fiscal year 1935 boats (the above two classes were FY 1934). The three Groton-built boats were all welded, while the others (built by Portsmouth and Mare Island) were partly-riveted. They were also partial double-hulled boats.
Who said US submarine design couldn't be complicated?

BTW, the above info comes from Register of Ships of the U.S. Navy, 1775-1990.
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Old 02-11-10, 05:03 PM   #160
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Well okay I was partially correct about the riveting.Ruiz said the pollack was riveted so figured he would know what he was talking about since he went on many war patrols.Yes sounds like sub construction was complicated.Pollack was SS -180 and built at Portsmouth I believe. Thanks for clearing it up though.
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Old 02-15-10, 06:32 AM   #161
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you can activate all at once,
except different variants like gato/uss drum
I notice that there are files that overwrite when activated all at once. Is there a specific order in which they should be activated? thanks
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Old 02-15-10, 10:38 AM   #162
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I notice that there are files that overwrite when activated all at once. Is there a specific order in which they should be activated? thanks
no, it's just because some textures are the same.
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Old 02-15-10, 11:38 AM   #163
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SALMON/SARGO interior added,
based on the USS COBIA.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1539
Beautiful work there !

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Old 02-15-10, 01:28 PM   #164
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I played a bit yesterday. Yes sir, this mod really adds a new world to the muttled world of sub interiors. Enjoying it quite a bit.
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Old 02-15-10, 02:23 PM   #165
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Interior overhauls have added big time.....the detailed christmas tree and functioning torpedo panel are my favorite features.Also noticed the cofee cup on the chart desk in control room of porpoise slides forward and back when dive angle changes, good stuff.
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