UK Politics Thread part II

[Rockstar]

THE STORY
“Two-Tier Keir”
Blood in Britain's Streets

AYAAN HIRSI ALI
AUG 07, 2024

https://www.restorationbulletin.com/p/two-tier-keir

On July 29th, 11 young girls aged between 6 and 9-years-old were stabbed multiple times at a Taylor Swift-themed birthday party. Three of them died; two in pools of their own blood and one later in the hospital. There is now rioting across England. The response to this rioting may tell us everything we need to know about the skewed preferences of Europe’s political elite and those of Britain’s in particular, the unabated demonization of the white working class, and the failure of the mass-immigration project to produce a society in which minority groups view themselves and the nation as part of a cohesive whole.

The three young girls, pictured below, were six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe and nine-year-old Alice Dasilva Aguiar.



They were killed by 17-year-old Axel Rudakubana, who was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents. The police have not yet released any information about motive, but in the immediate aftermath protestors, suspecting an Islamic terror attack, gathered outside the Southport Mosque. They were met with police and dogs, and violence erupted between the protestors and the local forces. This violence has now surfaced in pockets across the country in protest against mass immigration. It’s akin, though on a smaller scale, to what we have seen in Ireland and France this year.

It should go without saying that all violent disorder which endangers lives and destroys property is unacceptable. There is no excuse that justifies riots, attacks on citizens, property damage and arson. This red line applies to all individuals or groups on the political spectrum from far right to far left and just as much to all ethnic and religious minorities regardless of their numbers or social status. It tears at the social fabric and destroys the trust which is necessary for common flourishing. Unfortunately, the British Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer did not say this in his statement on the developments.

The Prime Minister decided instead to single out what he calls “far-right” and made a point of stressing the need to keep Muslims and minority communities safe. In this speech, which focusses not on the spark which ignited this unrest, but rather on “Islamophobia,” and “far-right” thuggery, you can see how the Prime Minister might be gearing up to implement his de facto blasphemy laws which I warned about prior to the general election in my article “Labour’s Backdoor British Blasphemy Laws.”

Sir Keir’s rhetoric serves to embolden disaffected Muslim youths by furthering the narrative that Muslims are persecuted in western countries. It is this narrative which Islamists seize upon to radicalize the population and stir young men to violence. The response also serves to demoralize the British population, who have found that their extreme concern over the effects of mass-immigration falls on deaf ears. The play-book is always as follows: an immigrant or child of an immigrant goes on a killing rampage and the government goes after a “far-right” threat.

I wrote on the Restoration Bulletin about this trend in “Islamism and the Far Right: A False Equivalence.”

Over the last few days, the self-styled “Muslim Defence League,” a group of loosely organized young Muslim men have been parading around their towns armed with weapons in response to what they perceive as a threat to Muslim communities. They have largely been goaded on by the rhetoric of senior politicians such as Sir Keir.

There has been little interrogation of this in the media, but a proliferation of videos online gives us a glimpse into the scale of the crowds in some of these areas.

There has been no press conference held on the threat of “far-right” Muslim gangs – young men walking around their towns with machetes and pipes. In fact, videos have emerged of police in Stoke encouraging Muslim men to discard their knifes at the mosque. In organizing an amnesty for this group, in these terms, the police essentially treat Muslims as a separate community over whom legitimate authority lies in the Mosque, not the state. They might be accused of policing along sectarian lines.

One senior Labour politician, Jess Phillips, a Government Home Office Minister, has been accused of defending and excusing the behavior of these Muslim gangs on twitter.



There have been calls for her resignation.

This has culminated in a sense, amongst Britons, that there is a two-tiered application of policing. That minority “communities” are treated with kid gloves in comparison to native Britons. The moniker “Two-Tier Keir” has latched itself onto the man who has only been Prime Minister for a month.

Even Elon Musk has waded into the discussion, responding to the Prime Minister’s speech on twitter by asking: “shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on *all* communities?” It is a fair question, one which a large subsection of British society does not think has been answered convincingly. And it is why these sporadic outbursts of violence have continued to erupt.

This all comes in the wider context of increasing disorder and criminality on the streets in Britain. Just a few weeks ago, riots erupted in Harehills, an area in Leeds, after four children of a Romani family were taken into care by social services. A double decker bus was set on fire in the middle of the street and property was damaged and burnt throughout the night. Videos emerged of “community leaders” arguing that the Romani community could deal with its affairs internally, threatening further riots if they were not allowed to do so. It was stressed that the local police and social services were unwelcome.

More recently, on July 22nd, a solider in full uniform, was stabbed multiple times in the neck leaving his barracks. 24-year-old Nigerian migrant, Anthony Esan, has been charged with the attempted murder. It was only 11 years ago that Fusilier Lee Rigby was decapitated in the street by two Nigerian migrants.

This time, there was barely a mention on the news though there were, of course, the inevitable well wishes to the family from the Prime Minister. But the most tangible reflection on the event seems to be a change in the rules on what soldiers can wear outside of barracks in order to keep them safe from certain members of the public; a twisted irony. There is a sense that in Britain, much like the rest of Europe, events like this have become normalized. It has required the brutal murder of three young girls to bring people onto the streets.

Britain has fewer police per capita than most European countries. In accordance with the principles under which the police forces were set up in the 19th century, they have always relied on the support of the public to maintain order. It is an important principle on which the country was ordered for over a century. And it worked. There are now groups of people with a sense of identity entirely separate from that of the British and who resent the imposition of authority coming from outside their “communities.”

The scale of mass immigration into the country, from places with very different cultures to that of Britain, has radically transformed the country in just twenty years and upended the social contract. It has made this situation inevitable. It will only get worse if the political elites in Britain, including journalists, continue to refuse to have uncomfortable conversations in the public square about the nature and effects of immigration and the violence perpetrated and encouraged by certain groups.

The British people have voted in at least the last six elections to put an end to mass immigration, which they view as a drain on public finances and a danger to their way of life. And, as we have seen, over recent years it is. The offences against the British people are perhaps too numerous to list, but here are some which loom large in the memory of the British public:

2005 Central London bombings, 52 dead.

2013 Lee Rigby hacked to death by two terrorists.

2017 Westminster attack.

2017 Manchester Arena bombing.

2017 London Bridge attack.

2019 London Bridge stabbing.

2020 Reading multiple stabbings, three dead.

2021 Liverpool Women's hospital bombing.

2021 Murder of Sir David Amess MP.

2023-24 Rise of Machete brawls on the streets of towns.

2024 Army Officer stabbed outside his barracks.

On top of all this, in deprived towns across the country, from Telford, to Rotherham to Rochdale, thousands of young girls were systematically raped and groomed by Muslim grooming gangs over decades. The police turned a blind eye as this tragedy was unfolding out of fear of being accused of racism and islamophobia.

It does not seem unreasonable that a working-class British person might take one look at the changes which have occurred in his area over the last twenty years and feel betrayed.


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Nearly all of this change occurred since 2001. Not only did the public not ask for this, they actively voted against this at every election over the last two decades.

Rioting is an abominable thing. Stealing, looting, and the damaging of property have been excused by swathes of liberal commentators over recent years as an essential form of speech; a way to “speak truth to power.” This is never right and punishment for violence ought to be handed down firmly. However, it cannot be the case that the expression of grief and anxiety from one “community” – the British – is condemned more harshly than the violence expressed on the streets of Britain by minority gangs on a regular basis. This is anarcho-tyranny manifest.

If the Prime Minister will come out and condemn the “Muslim Defence League” on the same terms and listen with some sympathy to the concerns of Britons from working class areas who feel that their safety is under threat, then fine. Until then, it will be #TwoTierKeir, as Musk puts it.

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[Dargo]

Real live in the UK is different:
New attacks were planned for Wednesday night. Through far-right Telegram channels, hundreds of addresses of lawyers and social institutions, among others, were distributed to be targeted. British citizens annoyed by the hate-mongers decided not to let it get that far, rapidly organised themselves and lined up in large groups near the targets to protect them from the imminent danger. Within hours, the streets were recaptured from the racist agitators in this unprecedented Battle of Britain.

In Middlesborough, Birmingham and Sheffield, the turnout of defenders of democracy exceeded all expectations. In London, the crowd chanted "Whose streets? Our streets!" In Liverpool, mothers formed a protective ring around one of the targets, an aid facility for migrants, and carried placards reading "Nan's against Nazis". The anti-racists took a lot of work off the hands of the police. The authorities had been struggling to contain the extremely violent rioters until Wednesday, but the overwhelming number of civilians changed the situation. The far-right gangs saw that they stood no chance against the large groups of democrats and chose eggs for their money.

Elon Musk, the billionaire who seeks to destabilise societies through his Medium X, had earlier predicted and perhaps hoped for civil war. The peaceful citizens proved otherwise; their massive presence alone caused opponents to flee. In some places, such as Brighton where the rioters faced an excess of anti-racists, they even asked for police protection. This was not really necessary as the democrats sang and danced the samba to keep the racists at bay. Clashes did threaten in a few places but were appeased. Extreme right-wing hooligans who returned to attack targets later in the night still encountered a police force. More than 6,000 policemen were on hand to protect society from the far-right gangs.

[mapuc]

Is it only far right and nazis who is demonstrating against foreigners in UK ?

I got the impression that even ordinary citizens toke part in some of these demonstration and that it was mostly EDL who put up a fight with the police.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Is it only far right and nazis who is demonstrating against foreigners in UK ?

I got the impression that even ordinary citizens toke part in some of these demonstration and that it was mostly EDL who put up a fight with the police.

Markus

These are no demonstrations, these are racist riots. The rioters are supporters of the English Defence League, far-right stoke brand Tommy Robinson ordinary citizens do not set fire to their own communities sure some were there, but the majority were fascist agitators from groups like the EDL. A mother of one of the murdered children felt compelled to issue an appeal to quell the violence. The mother was not listened to by the agitators, and a day later it was back on.

[mapuc]

Sooner or later ordinary citizens will get enough it's only a matter of time before they hit the streets in some European countries.

This will happen in UK, France, Germany, Italy and Sweden.

I wouldn't call it civil war what's going on in UK, I would more likely call it civil unrest

I despite People who is attacking and destroying people and stuff.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Real live in the UK is different:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Is it only far right and nazis who is demonstrating against foreigners in UK ?

I got the impression that even ordinary citizens toke part in some of these demonstration and that it was mostly EDL who put up a fight with the police.

Markus

Well there's two people who are sensible enough to see it for what it actually is

[Jimbuna]

[Moonlight]

Good people forced to keep silent for fear of being branded criminals - this is out of Stasi Communist playbook - Peter Bleksley

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...a8649358&ei=13

I remember being given German history lessons of the 30's and 40's, the young school children were told by the state and by their school teachers to inform on their parents if they said anything untoward, yeah, bad mouth the state and we'll make sure you don't do it again, leave Starmer unchallenged and he'll bring something like that in.

[Jimbuna]

navigate me to the nearest shell gas station

[Moonlight]

Police force issues grovelling apology after it ignored dozens of emails to a dedicated violence against women and girls helpline for NINE months

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-apology.html

If this is the level of commitment from this female Assistant Chief Constable, she should resign and get a job more to her abilities, I hear that Tesco are needing some shelf stackers, even she couldn't screw that up, or could she?.

[Jimbuna]

‘I messed up’ over sacking of Greens which led to my resignation, admits Yousaf

Former first minister Humza Yousaf has said he “********* up” in his sacking of the Scottish Greens from his government which resulted in his resignation.

Unhappy about the ditching of government climate targets, Green members forced a vote on the Bute House Agreement, which would have forced its collapse.

But before the vote was held, Mr Yousaf decided to sack co-leaders Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater from his government and bring the deal to an end.

In response, the Greens said they would back a motion of no confidence in his premiership, effectively forcing Mr Yousaf’s resignation after just over a year in the job.

Appearing at an Edinburgh Festival Fringe event with broadcaster Matthew Stadlen on Thursday, the former first minister also pointed to an interview Mr Harvie did with the BBC where he appeared to question the scientific validity of the Cass Review into gender care for young people.

Yousaf said his “phone blew up” in the minutes after the broadcast.

“It wasn’t from the usual malcontents in my party, but reasonable, supportive people, saying this makes the Bute House Agreement very difficult to sustain and I need to think whether to continue it or not,” he continued.

“The miscalculation I made, is you tend to make your mistakes when you think like a politician in a political bubble and you forget the human dimension.

Look, I frankly, ********* up

Humza Yousaf, former first minister
“And what I did, in my miscalculation was to go, well, the Greens rely so heavily on the SNP for the list vote, if they vote against the SNP Government, and the SNP First Minister, it will be political suicide.

“Of course, the human dimension, which you must always think about, is you’re bringing in two of your ministers into Bute House and sacking them very publicly, and they are going to react very badly to that.”

He added: “I always said to myself, when I entered politics, that there were two things worth trying to do. One is never trade my principles or values, the other is when it’s time to go, own your mistakes that you make.

“Look, I frankly, ********* up.”

In the hours before his resignation, it was reported Mr Yousaf was in talks with the Alba Party to secure the vote of its lone MSP Ash Regan – who defected from the SNP under his leadership.

But he told the crowd such a deal would have been “impossible”, because party leader, and former first minister, Alex Salmond was pushing for an electoral pact between the two parties.

But Mr Yousaf said there was “no way” he would help in “rehabilitating Alex Salmond in the political sphere”.

A spokesman for the Alba Party said a deal between the two parties would have saved Mr Yousaf and made the election last month “about how many seats a pro independence alliance could’ve won as opposed to how many seats the SNP would lose to Labour”.

A document laying out Alba’s position in its negotiation with the former first minister, shared with the PA news agency, did not mention an electoral pact.

How could we trust that he would remain committed to the Green policies that were part of a deal he had just walked away from, such as rent controls and a ban on conversion practices?

Scottish Green Party co-leader Lorna Slater
Mr Yousaf also reflected on his time in office, saying he had not decided whether he would run again as an MSP in 2026, but said he would definitely not become first minister again if given the opportunity.

He also opened up on having a young family while leading a government.

While in Bute House, Mr Yousaf had a toddler and teenage daughter, and his wife Nadia El-Nakla has subsequently given birth to a baby girl, less than a month ago.

But among the most “heated” arguments the couple would have during his time in office, Mr Yousaf said, would be when she would accuse him of “just not spending enough time with the kids”.

He spoke of how she told him to “get your backside back home and see the kids”.

Speaking after Mr Yousaf’s appearance at the event, Scottish Green Party co-leader Lorna Slater said: “We respect a lot of the work that he did as first minister, particularly when it came to his commitment to social justice and his response to the genocide in Gaza.

“But we could not back him after he had caved in to some of the most reactionary elements of his party.

“How could we trust that he would remain committed to the Green policies that were part of a deal he had just walked away from, such as rent controls and a ban on conversion practices?”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...981f857&ei=111

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

Police Scotland to send 120 officers to Belfast after disorder

Police Scotland are to send 120 officers to Belfast over the next week to help quell threats of violence.

The force said it had received a mutual aid request from the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) ahead of expected anti-immigration demonstrations and counter protests on Friday.

A security operation is being put in place across Northern Ireland after 10 officers were injured and 26 people were arrested over six nights of rioting and disorder.

It comes after First Minister John Swinney wrote to social media companies Meta, TikTok and X calling for "immediate" action to tackle misinformation and hateful material which has fuelled violent scenes across parts of the UK.

Police Scotland said the officers would be loaned as part of the arrangement.

The PSNI’s assistant chief constable, Melanie Jones, said it would give the force “vital additional resilience” to deal with disorder.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgxwv50nq3o

[Dargo]

The racist violence in the UK is not a spontaneous eruption of popular anger, but the outcome of years of political radical propaganda. A thought experiment. Imagine that after terrorist violence by Muslim extremists, the very first reaction of progressive speechmakers would be that this is the result of right-wing politics looking away from the Western role in Middle East conflicts. What would be the consequence then? Those speechmakers would be buried in criticism, they would be dismissed as extremists, and perhaps their position in the public debate would be compromised. This would not even be entirely unjustified, as such a reaction shows little human compassion for the terror victims.

The point is, why do we tolerate many on the right immediately pointing the finger at the alleged responsibility of the left after the extreme violence in the UK in recent weeks? You read this not only among radical right-wing voices, but also among representatives of a more moderate, sensible right, including in other countries. Some feel that the left does not answer legitimate concerns about security, does not acknowledge the failure of our integration policies, does not replace socialisation and denial of problems with empowerment. A curious reaction, especially as the UK has just emerged from 14 years of right-conservative rule. In this case, wouldn't horror at the racist violence and looting in the high streets and sympathy for the victims have just been the logical first reaction? It is not about the individual, it is about the trend. Looking away has changed camps. Now on the right, it is difficult to name far-right violence as what it is: far-right violence that victimises and harms. There is a fairly widely shared belief that migrants who are victims of brutal street violence have themselves to blame. That victim-blaming corresponds to the idea that the far-right deftly markets, namely that pogrom-like street violence shows a kind of explosion of popular sentiment, brought to a boiling point by years of denied migration problems and crime. This is not true. The racist street violence of recent weeks, often directed specifically against Muslims, is the result of decades of political stigmatisation of Muslims and migrants in general. The fuse in the powder keg should certainly be named: the gruesome massacre by a 17-year-old young man at a holiday camp for young Taylor Swift fans in Southport. The perpetrator is a child of Rwandan migrant parents, but he was also born in Wales and brought up Christian. So as an excuse, if that were even possible, to attack Muslims and asylum centres, it can hardly apply.

That does not mean that migration does not cause problems. Those problems certainly exist, and the frustrations are real when it comes to the difficulty of effectively constraining an open economy like the European or British one. One of the big challenges is the uneven distribution of the impact of migration. The negative impact mainly affects lower-income groups, who see their immediate living environment changing and discoloured and experience this as displacement or competition. In contrast, higher income groups mainly benefit, reaping the benefits of prosperity from migrant labour in low-paid jobs. This analysis already offers an explanation as to why certain groups of Britons were guilty of racist street violence and looting. Certainly, it is intellectually lazy and downright paternalistic to condescendingly dismiss voters who vote for a xenophobic party or politician as 'losers of globalisation'. These very voters often consciously and wholeheartedly vote for a far-right anti-immigration programme.

Yet in the UK case, the economic component is hard to ignore. The UK economy has gone through a difficult period since Brexit, with a loss of 2 to 5 percentage points of economic growth. That is huge, and the hardest hit, of course, has been on the most vulnerable. Last year, poverty in the UK peaked at 18 per cent, and among children it is as high as 25 per cent. Much of this poverty and low-income is concentrated in northern England, particularly in the cities and neighbourhoods that experienced outbreaks of violence. It was also the residents of these cities and neighbourhoods who contributed to the Brexit majority at the time, in the now fading hope that independence would lead to less migration and more prosperity.

This is not to say that the violence and overt xenophobia are economically inspired. It does mean that politicians find in those economically vulnerable groups an audience susceptible to anti-immigration rhetoric. Because that is how the dynamic works: it is politicians who incite the population, not the other way around. Scientific opinion research shows that in the UK, as in other countries, negative ideas about migration and Islam have been strong for decades. That negative line remains fairly stable over time and does not suddenly dive even deeper. What did change is that politicians started to put migration criticism itself forward as a priority? As the left and right moved closer together socio-economically since Tony Blair and New Labour, identity and migration became the new distinctive themes in political debate. Right-wing populist Nigel Farage certainly played and is playing his part in this, but more importantly, the big, traditional Conservative party also opportunistically embraced the rhetoric against Europe and against migration. Voters were warmed up with expensive oaths about stopping migrants. Those promises proved unachievable, partly because the British economy needs and is actively attracting those migrants at the same time. This naturally increases voter frustration, which continues the spiral of new expectations and unachievable anti-immigrant promises. It is this infernal dynamic that has led to a derailment of violence.

Extremist provocateurs, like Tommy Robinson, also play a role in this, as does the media platform - X/ Twitter - that gives him every opportunity to spread hatred and lies. But that role is overestimated rather than underestimated. The far right has rarely been able to gain real political power through elections in the UK. A figure like Robinson remains marginal in many ways. And X-boss Elon Musk may take a peculiar pleasure in stirring things up, but the responsibility of classical media that helped stir up xenophobia for years may be greater. Here is where hope shines at first glance, the recent wave of violence in the UK might suggest that such street violence is also possible elsewhere. Yet there are crucial differences between the situation in the UK and these other countries. The socio-economic reality here is much less bleak (although we have our own challenges), and the media in other countries do not have the same activist-populist tradition (even if we too are not without fault).

[Rockstar]

Might explain why euros spend so much time talking smack about U.S. politics. It’s a safer environment.

UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: 'We'll come after you'
'Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law' the police commissioner warned

https://www.foxnews.com/media/uk-pol...s-we-come-afte