Malaysia airlines B777 missing - Page 10

Tchocky · 03-12-14, 04:51 AM

Uncorrelated primary radar plot spotted 45 minutes after last contact, 200nm NW of Penang.

Curious and curiouser.

Jimbuna · 03-12-14, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Looks very like my post at #128.

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Originally Posted by Oberon

See?! Another mystery!

Cue music

CCIP · 03-12-14, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Uncorrelated primary radar plot spotted 45 minutes after last contact, 200nm NW of Penang.

Curious and curiouser.

Fishy. Hopefully there's enough in the radar data to at least figure out if that was a 777 or not.
It's still very weird, though, because that's at least another 45 minutes and some of it over land - the lack of any data coming from the plane in that period (including any attempted phone calls from passengers) is weird.

Tchocky · 03-12-14, 05:51 AM

Generally not enough data. Seems it's a primary surveillance radar plot, which isn't your narrow-aperture high-resolution stuff that can ID an aircraft.

If it's anything like our primary radar all you'll get is bearing, groundspeed and climb rate. Not sure how well set up Malaysian military radar is.

This plot was spotted when they were revising radar tapes, which tells me one two things -

1) Malaysian Military controllers don't have full correlation of civil traffic
2) They should, but don't care if they don't

I'd like to know the secondary radar coverage map of that area. Somebody missed something

Spiced_Rum · 03-12-14, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Until I logged onto Facebook this morning I didn't realise so many of my friends were aviation accident investigators.

I saw this on the joke thread and thought it fairly accurate.

Jimbuna · 03-12-14, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiced_Rum

I saw this on the joke thread and thought it fairly accurate.

Most recent report/speculation I've seen on the news is the possibility it could have flown an additional 3000 miles in any direction if the hull became depressurised and everyone was starved of oxygen rendering them unconscious.

Oberon · 03-12-14, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Most recent report/speculation I've seen on the news is the possibility it could have flown an additional 3000 miles in any direction if the hull became depressurised and everyone was starved of oxygen rendering them unconscious.

That's some glider!

Jimbuna · 03-12-14, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

That's some glider!

Rather....that's some auto pilot...it has been known to happen before IIRC.

mapuc · 03-12-14, 03:48 PM

You haven't seen me comment this thread, until now

I really don't like to speculate in things that is not in my area of knowledge.

I follow the news about the development of this missing airliner

and I have this evening heard many theories

Was taking a look at yesterdays program of Coast to Coast to see what they had on their program and guess what....

Markus

Jimbuna · 03-12-14, 04:01 PM

What?

TarJak · 03-12-14, 04:14 PM

It showed lots of thoeries but no answer of course.

mapuc · 03-12-14, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What?

Have made some small changes to my post hope you can read and understand it now.

Markus

Oberon · 03-12-14, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Rather....that's some auto pilot...it has been known to happen before IIRC.

True, but the aircraft would have continued to transmit merrily on its way, updating its course on ACARS until it crashed into the sea.

Spiced_Rum · 03-12-14, 05:08 PM

Is there an equivalent to the Bermuda Triangle in the Far East? Maybe same position opposite Bermuda through the core of the planet. My maths is not good enough to work out the Lat and Long of an equivalent position.

TG626 · 03-12-14, 05:15 PM

There's the Dragon's Triangle, but it's not in the area we are talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Sea

03-12-14, 04:51 AM	#136
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Uncorrelated primary radar plot spotted 45 minutes after last contact, 200nm NW of Penang. Curious and curiouser. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

03-12-14, 05:51 AM	#139
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Generally not enough data. Seems it's a primary surveillance radar plot, which isn't your narrow-aperture high-resolution stuff that can ID an aircraft. If it's anything like our primary radar all you'll get is bearing, groundspeed and climb rate. Not sure how well set up Malaysian military radar is. This plot was spotted when they were revising radar tapes, which tells me one two things - 1) Malaysian Military controllers don't have full correlation of civil traffic 2) They should, but don't care if they don't I'd like to know the secondary radar coverage map of that area. Somebody missed something __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

03-12-14, 03:48 PM	#144
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,628 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	You haven't seen me comment this thread, until now I really don't like to speculate in things that is not in my area of knowledge. I follow the news about the development of this missing airliner and I have this evening heard many theories Was taking a look at yesterdays program of Coast to Coast to see what they had on their program and guess what.... Markus Last edited by mapuc; 03-12-14 at 04:22 PM.

03-12-14, 04:01 PM	#145
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,380 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	What? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-12-14, 05:08 PM	#149
Spiced_Rum Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2013 Location: Enjoying a run ashore Posts: 1,129 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Is there an equivalent to the Bermuda Triangle in the Far East? Maybe same position opposite Bermuda through the core of the planet. My maths is not good enough to work out the Lat and Long of an equivalent position. __________________ Spiced_Rum "The only rocks I want to see are in my glass, and covered with lashings of Spicey and Coke"

03-12-14, 04:14 PM	#146
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	It showed lots of thoeries but no answer of course.

03-12-14, 05:15 PM	#150
TG626 Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USS Seal - Somewhere in the Pacific Posts: 268 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 3	There's the Dragon's Triangle, but it's not in the area we are talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Sea __________________ T. E. Thompson, LTCDR Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Seal (formerly S-40 (SS-145))

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