Kind of ironic this happened...

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Really? You've missed the point again? I'm not going to explain it a third time.

You haven't explained anything once. You simply claim that whites have some wonderful automagical advantage. When I challenged you to enumerate how that is so - and provided points to show it is not accurate - you whine about a missed point. In other words, you have no response and can't do more than make a baseless claim. Gotcha.

[TarJak]

I'm not the one whining. If you don't understand what's been presented to you then that's your problem. Your response showed that you missed the point in the first place and had nothing to do with the original point of mookies post ir my clarification of it.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by TarJak

I'm not the one whining. If you don't understand what's been presented to you then that's your problem. Your response showed that you missed the point in the first place and had nothing to do with the original point of mookies post ir my clarification of it.

No whining involved - and you still continue to avoid the question. Because you can't answer it. Nor could Mookie. You make baseless claims and then when confronted, avoid the issue like the plague. That is just sad...... Expected, but sad.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

You simply claim that whites have some wonderful automagical advantage.

I'm a white guy. I'm positive from my past experiences being a white guy I have in some cases "automagical" advantage over people of color.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I'm a white guy. I'm positive from my past experiences being a white guy I have in some cases "automagical" advantage over people of color.

Yep, it really is a no brainer, someone would have to be pretty far gone to claim otherwise.
So is there anyone who is that far gone in this topic?

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

No whining involved - and you still continue to avoid the question. Because you can't answer it. Nor could Mookie. You make baseless claims and then when confronted, avoid the issue like the plague. That is just sad...... Expected, but sad.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I'm a white guy. I'm positive from my past experiences being a white guy I have in some cases "automagical" advantage over people of color.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yep, it really is a no brainer, someone would have to be pretty far gone to claim otherwise.
So is there anyone who is that far gone in this topic?

Mookies point was clearly not lost on others.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

You haven't explained anything once. You simply claim that whites have some wonderful automagical advantage. When I challenged you to enumerate how that is so - and provided points to show it is not accurate - you whine about a missed point. In other words, you have no response and can't do more than make a baseless claim. Gotcha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

You are just being cruel mookie, you only posted that link because it has the "angry white male" bit at the bottom.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

You are just being cruel mookie, you only posted that link because it has the "angry white male" bit at the bottom.

Yes but I find this interesting:

White privilege functions differently in different places. A person's white skin will not be an asset to them in every conceivable place or situation. White people are also a global minority, and this fact affects the experiences they have outside of their home areas. Nevertheless, some people who use the term "white privilege" describe it as a worldwide phenomenon, resulting from the history of colonialism by white Europeans. One author argues that American white men are privileged almost everywhere in the world, even though many countries have never been colonized by Europeans.[34][35]
In some accounts, global white privilege is related to American exceptionalism and hegemony.[36]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes but I find this interesting:

One advantage the Irish have in that worldwide angle, as a nation they havn't invaded or colonised any of those far flung places, millions of micks all round the world, but the locals blame the Brits.
I suppose we could call that global white Irish privilige

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

That is the biggest load of crap ever, makes me so angry every time some fool spews this nonsense.I assure you that I, as a white male, have no special privileges.Perhaps 60 years ago, maybe even 50 but now? No.Really, if anyone has such privileges, it is everyone but white people, especially white males.SMH

[razark]

The funny thing about being in the privileged class is that one tends not to notice that one is in the privileged class.

Originally Posted by razark

The funny thing about being in the privileged class is that one tends not to notice that one is in the privileged class.

Not all the time.

[CaptainHaplo]

What is ironic is that even the link shows 3 important things, 2 of which demonstrate a significant slant.

1) The concept of "white privilege" is hotly debated. Thus its existence is a matter of opinion based on an individual's personal experience.

2) Every example provided by the linked page points to historical examples of racism, yet does not provide any contemporary examples. For example, it notes that the Federal Housing Act in 1934 formalized the ability to exercise racism in housing - but it entirely fails to note that Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 removed that ability and prohibited using race as a factor in determining housing availability. In essence, it makes the argument that "white privilege" existed significantly prior to WW2. Yet it is unable to make a compelling argument for its existence since the Civil Rights movement.

3) In examining the incarceration rates of blacks vs whites, it infers a system that favors whites because whites are those in power inside the system. However, it again fails to point out facts that demonstrate that incarceration rates do not tie to the "white controlled" justice system. A perfect example is South Africa, where during white control, the incarceration numbers (and deaths/abuses during incarceration) were significantly LOWER than when the ANC took control. Given that those numbers have not returned to pre-colonial levels even today, more than 20 years after the end of "white control" - there is no corollary as inferred.

Its funny - the bias above happens all the time on Wiki - and it happens on both sides. Its one reason why most people will tell ya not to use wiki as a source LOL. Also funny that those who want to claim "white privilege" exists have yet to give one concrete example of it - instead pointing to a slanted page that itself admits the idea is a "debated" concept.

[mookiemookie]

Gee, how could 300 years of a system with economic, educational and social aspects rigged in favor of one group have any lingering effects? It doesn't! It all went away overnight. Everyone, black and white, reaped the benefits of their forefathers' abundant wealth and educational opportunities, because you see, the Civil Rights Act was magic! It magically went back in time and undid all the nasty things that happened in the past. That's why the past doesn't matter anymore, you see!