SUBSIM Meeting 2008

Rockin Robbins · 10-12-08, 08:25 PM

How about a bunch of pictures identifying all the perpetrators? Sure would be great for those of us who missed it to see what everyone looks like!

Wish I could have been there to talk about SH5. SH4 is just at the playability takeoff point and Ubi's business model demands they get another infusion of cash by shooting it down, while yet again reinventing the wheel. It is SO hard for me to see any good coming of that. They're insisting on pushing a rope and wondering why they don't get good results. It's time to break the mold of kiddie popcorn FPS games and make a new business model that actually works with simulations of quality.

Hint: simulations are played for years. FPS and RPG games are played for weeks until the kid beats the game and then discards it. The business model that doesn't reflect that reality is destined to fail. Customers are left unhappy and the game company realizes a small fraction of the revenue the game is capable of producing. All of us lose.

Don't reinvent, refine! Don't reinvent the game, reinvent the business model! Simulations are not video games. They can't be produced like them. They can't be sold like them. Well they can, but everybody loses when they are.

mookiemookie · 10-12-08, 08:55 PM

I had a blast meeting all of you guys in person. Sorry I didn't make it back out for the BBQ, but after getting my ass handed to me at paintball, I came home and crashed into bed!

For those of you who were unable to attend this year, make it a point to get to next year's!

Onkel Neal · 10-12-08, 09:33 PM

Here are a small sample of pics. I am waiting for pics from the gun range and BBQ, they are still on my camera.

SUBSIM manning the rail of BB Texas (this is the second half of the group, first half already finished their tour)

Lunch!

We had to safeguard our door from the top Grey Wolf, he doesn't take time to open it.

Tex Mex dinner -- wonderful food!!

Subsim members working hard to help a submarine memorial recover from Hurricane Ike.

If you want peace....

...prepare for war!!

more to come!

Task Force · 10-12-08, 09:42 PM

Looks like you all had fun.

I hope someone had a vedio camera down there.

Task Force · 10-12-08, 09:44 PM

Isnt that guy at the far right Mc Bee. I believe this is the first time ive seen him without his Pug face on.:rotfl:

Onkel Neal · 10-12-08, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force

Isnt that guy at the far right Mc Bee. I believe this is the first time ive seen hip without his Pug face on.:rotfl:

Yep, that's the mighty McBee, he's a paintball master, too.

Other pics

The Battleship Texas, last of her kind.

Mr. Bill Nichols, and me. After ten years working together, we finally got to meet.

Serious discussions in the Subsim office

BBQ from the Stevens Ranch

nikimcbee · 10-12-08, 11:17 PM

Quote:

I believe this is the first time ive seen hip without his Pug face on.

Pug face! Dem's fightin' words! Ain't no pug mug.

Task Force · 10-12-08, 11:19 PM

HAHA nikimcbee cant get the quotes right.:rotfl: It should be

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force

I believe this is the first time ive seen hip without his Pug face on.

Hip is surspost to be him.

danlisa · 10-13-08, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

We had to safeguard our door from the top Grey Wolf, he doesn't take time to open it.

Oh no you didn't!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Dowly · 10-13-08, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

We had to safeguard our door from the top Grey Wolf, he doesn't take time to open it.

Oh no you didn't!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Hot coffee coming from one's nostrills doesnt feel too good, but heck, way to go Kpt!

:rotfl::rotfl:

Task Force · 10-13-08, 10:27 AM

Looks Like we have a new kind of glass. First there was Bullet proof now theres Lehmann proof.:rotfl: He must have done something something bad or something realy good,Im still decideing.

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-14-08, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

We had to safeguard our door from the top Grey Wolf, he doesn't take time to open it.

Oh no you didn't!

:rotfl:

Hot coffee coming from one's nostrills doesnt feel too good, but heck, way to go Kpt!

Ja! Mein uber-greywolf-powers failed me for a moment! The collision mesh on Neal's back door works quite well and doesn't need to be modded.:rotfl:

(Though some padding would have been rather nice!

)

10-14-08, 11:05 PM

I checked those Mine Chart files that we are not allowed to release.
Neal's back door is not on them.
:hmm:

Nor is the front door!!
As Jimbuna well knows!!
:rotfl:

Ghost Wolf · 10-14-08, 09:11 PM

I wish I would have known about this meet. Would have loved to help clean up and meet you guys. I've been lurking and occasionally participating in this community for years and it would have been fun to meet you all finally.

10-14-08, 09:18 PM

All the Grey Wolves dodged out of the clean up stuff.
We always get in trouble when we go near a Fleet Boat!!
:rotfl:

We did try to have a productive meeting in downtown Houston
that day.

But between the Beers and beggers?
:hmm:
:rotfl:

10-12-08, 08:25 PM	#1
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	How about a bunch of pictures identifying all the perpetrators? Sure would be great for those of us who missed it to see what everyone looks like! Wish I could have been there to talk about SH5. SH4 is just at the playability takeoff point and Ubi's business model demands they get another infusion of cash by shooting it down, while yet again reinventing the wheel. It is SO hard for me to see any good coming of that. They're insisting on pushing a rope and wondering why they don't get good results. It's time to break the mold of kiddie popcorn FPS games and make a new business model that actually works with simulations of quality. Hint: simulations are played for years. FPS and RPG games are played for weeks until the kid beats the game and then discards it. The business model that doesn't reflect that reality is destined to fail. Customers are left unhappy and the game company realizes a small fraction of the revenue the game is capable of producing. All of us lose. Don't reinvent, refine! Don't reinvent the game, reinvent the business model! Simulations are not video games. They can't be produced like them. They can't be sold like them. Well they can, but everybody loses when they are. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-12-08, 08:55 PM	#2
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	I had a blast meeting all of you guys in person. Sorry I didn't make it back out for the BBQ, but after getting my ass handed to me at paintball, I came home and crashed into bed! For those of you who were unable to attend this year, make it a point to get to next year's! __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

10-12-08, 09:42 PM	#4
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Looks like you all had fun. I hope someone had a vedio camera down there. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

10-12-08, 09:44 PM	#5
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Isnt that guy at the far right Mc Bee. I believe this is the first time ive seen him without his Pug face on.:rotfl: __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time" Last edited by Task Force; 10-12-08 at 11:18 PM.

10-13-08, 10:27 AM	#11
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Looks Like we have a new kind of glass. First there was Bullet proof now theres Lehmann proof.:rotfl: He must have done something something bad or something realy good,Im still decideing. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

10-12-08, 09:33 PM	#3
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Here are a small sample of pics. I am waiting for pics from the gun range and BBQ, they are still on my camera. SUBSIM manning the rail of BB Texas (this is the second half of the group, first half already finished their tour) Lunch! We had to safeguard our door from the top Grey Wolf, he doesn't take time to open it. Tex Mex dinner -- wonderful food!! Subsim members working hard to help a submarine memorial recover from Hurricane Ike. If you want peace.... ...prepare for war!! more to come!

10-14-08, 11:05 PM	#13
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I checked those Mine Chart files that we are not allowed to release. Neal's back door is not on them. :hmm: Nor is the front door!! As Jimbuna well knows!! :rotfl:

10-14-08, 09:11 PM	#14
Ghost Wolf Seaman Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 37 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	I wish I would have known about this meet. Would have loved to help clean up and meet you guys. I've been lurking and occasionally participating in this community for years and it would have been fun to meet you all finally.

10-14-08, 09:18 PM	#15
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	All the Grey Wolves dodged out of the clean up stuff. We always get in trouble when we go near a Fleet Boat!! :rotfl: We did try to have a productive meeting in downtown Houston that day. But between the Beers and beggers? :hmm: :rotfl:

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