Slam Obama (merged)

[XabbaRus]

And what? Why is it that as soon as someone displays any sort of left leanings, they are branded a socialist or communist and that is seen as bad. So I guess Europe must be bad, as it is essentially social democratic.

Subman you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Skybird]

The headline is misleading for the intended purpose, it must be "That Guy's International COMMUNIST Connections". My name is Sky McBird, and I approved this message.

[mrbeast]

..........and the Subman propaganda campaign rolls on..........yawn.....

[AVGWarhawk]

Obama exhibits some Socialist ideals. However, this country was not based on Socialist ideals.

Subman is allowed to have his propoganda machine rolling. It does make for some fun and converstation!

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Subman is allowed to have his propoganda machine rolling. It does make for some fun and converstation!

He is allowed to since he is a right-winger, when I supported the liberal side I got a ten day ban for "trolling".

Lame.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

He is allowed to since he is a right-winger, when I supported the liberal side I got a ten day ban for "trolling".

Lame.

No, continuing your crusade after a 10 day ban is not the greatest thing one could do to bolster membership here at SS. That is up to you to decide. I find it odd that this is your very first post after a 10 breather.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No, continuing your crusade after a 10 day ban is not the greatest thing one could do to bolster membership here at SS. That is up to you to decide. I find it odd that this is your very first post after a 10 breather.

well, subman has been crusading for quite a while now ? why hasnt he been banned ?
Flamingboat did exactly the same as subman yet only he gets banned
that is indeed..lame

[Hylander_1314]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

And what? Why is it that as soon as someone displays any sort of left leanings, they are branded a socialist or communist and that is seen as bad. So I guess Europe must be bad, as it is essentially social democratic.

Subman you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

That may well be what Europe is or is based on, but the United States of America is supposed to be based on the Rule of Law (fudimently different), that no man or entity of man is suppose to be above. That is why it is a Republic. Read the Feseralist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers, and Common Sense. That is what we're supposed to have, but men are corruptable.

So if a nation is based on the Rule of Law, Individual Liberty, and the Right to own Property, how can Socialism, or Communism coexist? Since they are the opposite of it. And while we're at it, Fascism isn't that much different as it applies the same principle government rule.

But what gets me is how Communism/Socialism is called the far left, and Fascism is called the far Right. To be more accurate as they are all totalitarian in nature, they should all be on one side of the scale, not opposites. The other side is Liberty. But the US of A is not so far as to say anarchy, as it is tempered by laws. These are set in the Constution and Bill of Rights.

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Whoa hold on now. Being a socialist is no longer a label you can apply exclusively to the left after Comrade Bush sent 700+ billion to Wallstreet. The right has to come up with a new smear after Comrade Bush's "bailout".

I never let the right get away with this issue. You all susidize people like cattle and dairy farmers and call the left communists when they want to sudsidize the healthcare to clean that same junk out of people's arteries.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

Whoa hold on now. Being a socialist is no longer a label you can apply exclusively to the left after Comrade Bush sent 700+ billion to Wallstreet. The right has to come up with a new smear after Comrade Bush's "bailout".

I never let the right get away with this issue. You all susidize people like cattle and dairy farmers and call the left communists when they want to sudsidize the healthcare to clean that same junk out of people's arteries.

First of all, find me a smear the right has come up with concerning the bailout? I think you'll find Obama riding the horse of FEAR concerning in his speechs. Obama has been riding the horse of FEAR for many months. The people are buying it.


Subsidized cattle and dairy farmers? Well, we need to eat! Both right and left want to subsidize healthcare. Both have a different view on how to do it.

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

That may well be what Europe is or is based on, but the United States of America is supposed to be based on the Rule of Law (fudimently different), that no man or entity of man is suppose to be above.

This is meaningless when they can just go set aside or rewrite laws in a matter of 2 days. This has happened on a weekly basis under the Bush regime. Patriot Act, Wallstreet bailouts, wiretaps, etc.

[Skybird]

I love this extremist polarizing black and white painting: "rule of law" versus "socialism."

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." (Obi Wan)

Oh, and some of us over here live in republics as well, FYI. Germans, for example.

[Hylander_1314]

This is only because it has been allowed to happen. It is not the fundimental foundations. And if allowed to continue unabated, will result in a complete totalitarian regime.

Don't forget that Senor Boosh also said the Constitution is just a GD piece of paper. I really think he looks upon himself as the dictator of America. His push towards the NAU is to have more land to rule over. Call me crazy, but I really think the man to be power hungry.

The Patriot Act, give up more liberty for security. Franklin warned of this, though I wonder how many people know it.

Wallstreet bailouts. To give the government more control over the nations production as it now owns the industry, not the private citizen. This is totalitarian. Not wisdom.

Wiretaps, breaks the "thou shalt not" rules of the Bill of Rights. That the people shall be secure in their persons and their papers.

There is a long list of intrusions by government into the rights and daily lives of the private citizens that for the life of me, I can not understand how the American People, my countrymen can just let go on.

I myself prefer the animating contest of freedom over the tranquility of servitude. I do belive the framers are spinning like lathes in their graves at what this nation has become compared to what it was founded as.

So I do not disagree with you even though I may not share your views. And it is rediculous the way the "left" and the "right" point fingers at each other, as they are really on the same side of the spectrum with total control as the main focus. But the more we bicker back and forth, the more power they gain while we're not looking.

So to quote, I do not remember the author, "....the next time the redcoats won't be coming; they're already here".

[August]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Don't forget that Senor Boosh also said the Constitution is just a GD piece of paper. I really think he looks upon himself as the dictator of America. His push towards the NAU is to have more land to rule over. Call me crazy, but I really think the man to be power hungry

The problem with your theory is that dictators never give up their power, whereas Bush is going to walk away from it voluntarily come this February.

And he's right. The Constitution IS just a GD piece of paper. It's the laws and ideals that are written on it which are important, not the document itself.

Originally Posted by August

The problem with your theory is that dictators never give up their power, whereas Bush is going to walk away from it voluntarily come this February.

And he's right. The Constitution IS just a GD piece of paper. It's the laws and ideals that are written on it which are important, not the document itself.

Wow, this post made my jaw drop. Do you have any idea what you just said? He isn't walking away voluntarily, due to that so called "GD piece of paper" he can't stay more than 8 years, I assure you he would if he could.

You need to hit the library, that "GD piece of paper" known as the constitution is the reason we are not having this conversation in People's Factory Number 517...