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Old 10-02-08, 08:08 PM   #16
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It seems we agree moreso on these matters. I am inspired at this poin to learn more about what made Jefferson tick. I think at the bottom of the brook we will find we are in agreement on most of these issues now that we see where we are coming from. No doubt Jefferson had beliefs, but they as mine and perhaps yours will conflict with what is acceptable "doctrine" of the established church. I am thankful that people stand up for what they believe in based on knowledge. It is difficult for me to find common fellowship at various denomination because I have studied in detail the subject matter of the trinity and disagree with it. Hence, I am also a heretic or as they put it "...cult tendencies". Good discussion and if you have some good references regarding Jefferson I would enjoy reading them. (PM me). Thanks!
I'm actually a lot more conservative than I usually come across, partly because my belief in maximum freedom causes me to side with the liberals on some issues, and partly because it drives me crazy when anyone argues from the point of view that their opinion is the only valid one, which many conservatives seem to do.

As for the trinity, you're in good company with John Adams, whose Congregationalist church adopted Unitarianism while he was a member.

I just stumbled on a fascinating discussion of Adams' opinion of the Jewish State, and how his beliefs differed from the mainstream. The article is good; some of the comments even better.
http://www.positiveliberty.com/2006/...versalist.html

I've read that Adams wrote condemning the concept of the Trinity, but I can't find it anywhere online at the moment. It may have been in David McCollough's biography, the one the miniseries was made from.

http://www.adherents.com/people/pa/John_Adams.html
That last source also ends with Adams' statement as president that in his opinion the US government was "...is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion ..."

I'll PM you a list of Jefferson sources, as requested.
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