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Old 09-16-08, 08:24 AM   #1
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Bill was working on something like this awhile ago. He got as far as the "flying gas can" part, maybe a bit further (reaquisition at bottom of RR1?)
True. But, I ran into technical difficulties (just too hard to replicate much of the HFRO action with DW ), and put the project aside.

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Old 09-16-08, 03:12 PM   #2
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Well the problem is that the fun of that campaign would be to actually control the Thypoon, so you can make the different missions: Exit Poljarny, Lose your "escort", break out in the Atlantic, rendezvous with a 688i, kill the Alfa that is sent to kill you, etc.
Well... we could modernize it. We could always make Red October an Akula (we can even enhance it through the database a little to reflect the sub from the book if we feel like it). Other than that change, I think it's pretty doable.
Other options would be to keep the Red October as a Typhoon and have the player controlled platforms be the ones that are interacting and hunting the October while opposing each other... IE.. US ships/aircraft and Russian boats.
I also noticed that the current DW with LWAMI doesn't have the Alfa's in it while Sub Command does so we may have to wait for the next LWAMI where the SC database will be entirely ported over, mod it in ourselves, or just change the Alfa to a comparable sub in the DW database.
I'm sure people would forgive the change of making October an Akula since that would still give them the feel of stealing a Russian sub and running with it like what happened in the book considering the fact that we can't make a playable Typhoon.
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Old 09-17-08, 06:38 AM   #3
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I'm sure people would forgive the change of making October an Akula since that would still give them the feel of stealing a Russian sub and running with it like what happened in the book considering the fact that we can't make a playable Typhoon.
Of course, the basis of the idea is that the sub was equipped with a special propulison system, so in that sense it wouldn't matter wether it is a SSBN or SSN. The problem comes in that part of the thrill (for the US side at least) was that it couldn't be determined if the sub was in fact going to launch a strike against the US. But then again, in real life no Typhoon would need to go that close to the US coast to launch his attack, in fact they could launch them even from their base at Poljarni, or from the North Pole :hmm:
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Old 09-17-08, 07:28 AM   #4
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How about instead of "The Hunt For Red October", "SSN" his other submarine novel about a fictional conflict between the us and china in which a US sub USS Cheyenne wreaks havoc on the chinees navy.
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Old 09-17-08, 04:29 PM   #5
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I actually Acquired SSN at a library bag sale as well. It's not really a book book actually. It's meant to be a companion to the (Atrocious) video game SSN Stratagies of Submarine Warfare. BUT.. the nice thing about it is that it pretty much IS a bunch of scenarios that walk you through various sub engagements so it would translate REAL well to Dangerous Waters.
Someone did eight SSN missions for Sub Command. I tried porting them over to Dangerous Waters, but I had some issues (Mainly quite a few units that just weren't moddled in the DW database as opposed to SC with SCX). Like I said previously.. when the new LWAMI is released, it will have the whole SCX database included in it so it would be a matter of waiting for LWAMI or just making the models ourselves copying the data manually.
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Old 09-17-08, 04:45 PM   #6
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How about instead of "The Hunt For Red October", "SSN" his other submarine novel about a fictional conflict between the us and china in which a US sub USS Cheyenne wreaks havoc on the chinees navy.
There are several missions from SSN made for SC that can be converted for DW. (Infact I think they already were.)
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