Counting the lies.....

[Platapus]

Is this not called misdirection?

When a thread is written about one issue and people come along and try to nullify the discussion by hijacking it on to another issue?

Whether Senator Obama has, is, or will lie is totally independent to the issue whether McCain/Palin has, is, or will lie.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Is this not called misdirection?

When a thread is written about one issue and people come along and try to nullify the discussion by hijacking it on to another issue?

Whether Senator Obama has, is, or will lie is totally independent to the issue whether McCain/Palin has, is, or will lie.

Has MacCain's campaigns manager not proudly boasted that he is not about issues?

It's all about show and playing con tricks. Very serious stuff. The world stops revolving in reverence. Panem et circensis. The conventions are the best evidence - directed propaganda shows from A to Z, planned to the last detail and most minor gesture. It has to be as perfect like ten fish sticks in the paclkage - eleven are too much, and nine or one too few.

Buy it, people, buy the shiny shine!

[Monica Lewinsky]

the self appointed Messiah … will loose ... I Hope. He's from our state and we can not stand him anymore, or any of his B.S along with our WORTHLESS govenor. The sight or hearing him, makes most of us puke in Illinois. To prove the point, notice how the DNC gave NO TIME to our JERK HEAD govenor to be in the nomination process - that is a FIRST since 1900!

If you believe his crap, then shame on you. For 143 Days as a senator from Illinois, before announcing he is a running, he accomplished NOTHING in the Senate which is his MAIN job ... Absolutely ... NOTHING other than saying "present" for a vote or two.


The guy is a GREAT con-artist for the young - don't fall for it.

I do NOT like EITHER party canidates. Was for the first time going to vote third party, but there is no one there. :p

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]If you believe his crap, then shame on you. For 143 Days as a senator from Illinois he accomplished NOTHING ... before running for office ... Absolutely ... NOTHING other than saying "present" for a vote or two.

Well I can see you are getting confused here.

Obama spent 143 days in the Federal Senate where he did introduce/sponsor/cosponsor some pretty handy bills. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._States_Senate

Secondly, when he voted "present" it was when he was on the State Senate not the Federal Senate. In Illinois State Senators are allowed to vote present when they wish to object to some part of the legislation. Senator Obama voted Present 130 times out of over 4,000 votes in just under six years, so he voted present only 3% of the time.

Since you don't seem to know the Legislative history of Senator Obama from your own state, your opinion lacks credibility.

[Monica Lewinsky]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Since you don't seem to know the Legislative history of Senator Obama from your own state, your opinion lacks credibility.

He's still Fecal Matter in Illinois ... pure, worthless, dung.