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View Poll Results: Who do you think will be the next President of the United States?
Obama/Biden 80 56.74%
McCain/Palin 61 43.26%
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Old 09-02-08, 05:12 PM   #31
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How did this suddenly turn into "Who I'll vote for" and "who's wife does what"?

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Not necessarily who you want to be President, but if you had to bet a steak lunch, who you think will actually win.
No kidding! The poll is for who you think will win.

Sheesh, these guys cannot follow simple instructions
I did vote for who I think will win. Not who I want to win. But if I did not comment, that would be un-American
Good point!
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Old 09-03-08, 10:18 PM   #32
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Well, never heard much from Palin before tonight, but she nailed the speech with poise. Sweet!
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McCain / Palin

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Old 09-03-08, 10:24 PM   #34
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Well, never heard much from Palin before tonight, but she nailed the speech with poise. Sweet!
She did a hell of job. Can't wait to see her and Biden....
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Old 09-03-08, 11:19 PM   #35
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Well, never heard much from Palin before tonight, but she nailed the speech with poise. Sweet!
You are stating that too lightly. If this were baseball, she just hit a grand slam. Very confident, well spoken and I'm thinking the brightest crayon in the box at the moment. I think she took some pokes for sure but the pokes were the truth. Perhaps the Obama camp does not know what to make of this:hmm:
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Well, never heard much from Palin before tonight, but she nailed the speech with poise. Sweet!
She did a hell of job. Can't wait to see her and Biden....
McCain found his answer to the attack dog that Biden is portrayed as.
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She speaks well but IMO didn't say a thing of substance. 1 point for Obama here after listening to her. She didn't do anything but dance around issues or ignore them completely. McCain better say something of substance tomorrow... None-the-less, I'm still really looking forward to the debates where maybe someone will talk about issues !!! (Both sides included).

Just My independant opinion which is leaning more to the left the more I hear the right speak.

I liked Huckabee's speach though! It had some good shots that I thought were pretty good.

Just livening the conversation with no ill will intended so have at me !

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In the name of Freedom and the American flag vote Republican.

Don't let those Communist Democrats in if you don't want the Red Army marching outside the White House. :p
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Old 09-04-08, 12:26 PM   #39
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Palin was pretty clever in making "the media" into the evil guys, That way, when they start picking apart her bs-laden speech, the Republicans can cry "There they go again!"

That said, Obama is further ahead on polls than ever before. Hmph, convention bounce or result of McCain's VP selection? y'all decide.
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Well, never heard much from Palin before tonight, but she nailed the speech with poise. Sweet!
You are stating that too lightly. If this were baseball, she just hit a grand slam. Very confident, well spoken and I'm thinking the brightest crayon in the box at the moment. I think she took some pokes for sure but the pokes were the truth. Perhaps the Obama camp does not know what to make of this:hmm:

Actually a better analogy would be that Palin did wonderful in batting practice. This was a prepared speech to a friendly audience.

Before we can hand out "grand slams" we need to play a game against an opponent (debates).

We need to see how McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden do with unscripted questions and not in an environment of sycophants.

Then we can see who gets on base and who strikes out.
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I've never met a woman like Sarah Palin ... I never liked the stero typed business women I met back when I was in the business world, cough, cough, 25 years ago that is.

She has so much personality it was like she was making love to the whole audience, the news media, the camera and yes even all of America last night.

I enjoyed her performance
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Ya'll have a giggle at Rove

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Thinking about Palin and her speech, it very much looks like base-mobilisation. I'm nto sure if such a strategy will work this year, especially with a fired-up and more numerous Democratic Party. The Republicans should at least be trying to reach out to swing voters, instead of reinforcing culture-war barriers that Obama's campaign (at least) seems to eschew.
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She has so much personality it was like she was making love to the whole audience, the news media, the camera and yes even all of America last night.
Yeah, the "Brittany Spears" of politics... SHE SAID NOTHING... folks. She played the part perfectly and impressed those who won't take the time to REALLY look at what she has done politically. Go ahead. I dare you to take a few minutes and examine her political history. I think you'll see an entirely different Sarah Palin than the one schmoozing on stage...

Here's a headstart (from a commentary on CNN which I wholeheartedly agree with):

1. McCain and Palin get their health insurance paid for by the government (hers in Alaska and his in Washington). Yet they oppose giving the nearly 46 million uninsured Americans the same access to affordable health care.

2. John McCain's kids don't have to worry about paying for college. Yet he has opposed every single education support program to help others.

3. McCain and Palin say they will stand up to oil companies. Yet the only energy policy they support gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil companies to do more drilling and he has opposed every piece of federal legislation to explore alternative fuel sources.

4. McCain and Palin say they will revamp how Washington does business. Yet his campaign is filled with lobbyists and she has cooperated with Sen. Ted Stevens in funneling federal money for useless projects in Alaska for years. And McCain and Palin have no solutions for Americans worrying about their jobs in a fragile economy.

5. McCain and Palin want us to leave their families alone. Yet they want to make rules for our families by eliminating our right to make our own choices over abortion, eliminate our access to family planning education or domestic partner benefits, and our freedom from discrimination.
They want to control what our kids learn in school about sex and about science. In short, through the policies they promote and the judges they support, they want the government to have more control over our private lives than at any time in history.

6. McCain and Palin now say their campaign is about change, too. Yet the only real change they have proposed is a change from a suit to a skirt in the vice president's office and one man fighting a misplaced war for another in the Oval Office.

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Years ago I enjoyed a really talented hooker too...

Sarah Palin is "window dressing" for McCain. It's the "Look, a black guy is running for President. So what? I've got a woman... "... Obama SHOULD have picked Clinton and he could have had the whole enchilada. As it is, I'm not unhappy with Biden. At least he's got some foreign policy experience...

I don't care WHAT McCain or Palin do with/for their families. What I care about is how their choices will affect MY family...

Besides, do YOU want Sarah Palin in charge of the US Military if McCain "checks out"?
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You were never going to get that from the convention, DI. "Issues don't matter". That's not me being cynical or disparaging, but the obvious strategy for the Republicans over the week has been to hammer home biographies that will stick, and hit the tested cultural non-specifics. No substance necessary right now, yourself and Peto have hit it. Issues will come later, maybe.
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