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Old 09-01-08, 05:13 PM   #1
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Clintons said hands off on Chelsa.
John McCain didn't believe Chelsea was off-limits.
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Old 09-01-08, 05:34 PM   #2
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I think that is a good rule.

As long as the family member is not actively campaigning, they should be "off limits"

Conversely, once they start campaigning, they loose this exemption.
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Old 09-01-08, 06:32 PM   #3
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I think that is a good rule.

As long as the family member is not actively campaigning, they should be "off limits"

Conversely, once they start campaigning, they loose this exemption.
Good point but it goes hand in hand. If you put yourself in the spotlight, you also put yourself under the microscope.
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I think that is a good rule.

As long as the family member is not actively campaigning, they should be "off limits"

Conversely, once they start campaigning, they loose this exemption.
Agree with you on all points there Platapus!

Back to topic - I feel a little sorry for her (the Daughter) as she is now going to be in the spotlight. I do wish her the best of luck.....
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Clintons said hands off on Chelsa.
John McCain didn't believe Chelsea was off-limits.
Perhaps they made it the John McCain rule from that. Can you cite were John McCain did something by using Chelsea? I was not aware John thought Chelsea was fair game.
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Clintons said hands off on Chelsa.
John McCain didn't believe Chelsea was off-limits.
Perhaps they made it the John McCain rule from that. Can you cite were John McCain did something by using Chelsea? I was not aware John thought Chelsea was fair game.

Back in the 90s..McCainns "famous" joke.
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
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I didn't see this one coming (only UnderseaLcpl did ). And I agree with Obama completely--this shouldn't matter and leave the kid alone. She certainly has enough to deal with. But...

This is gonna hurt Palin. Now she'll be viewed as the mom who put her political career ahead of her daughter and that's probably why her daughter "strayed in the 1st place." Whether or not it's true. I hear ultra-conservatives moaning all over America right now, even though she's keeping the baby.

None-the-less: I still want to hear what she has to say in the coming weeks. It'll be interesting. :hmm:

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Oh, one thing I do want to say about this story....this idea that McCain knew before he picked her, etc etc, .....I don't buy it for a second. Not a frikkin second.
I agree. In fact, I wonder if Palin knew? It's not impossible to hide a pregancy at 5 months... Regardless--I wish the very best for the daughter. She's definitely got a rough road ahead...
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I agree. In fact, I wonder if Palin knew? It's not impossible to hide a pregancy at 5 months... Regardless--I wish the very best for the daughter. She's definitely got a rough road ahead...
I wonder too. Would you put your daughter in the spotlight if you knew what was coming to her? Gotta wonder. :hmm:
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I agree. In fact, I wonder if Palin knew? It's not impossible to hide a pregancy at 5 months... Regardless--I wish the very best for the daughter. She's definitely got a rough road ahead...
I wonder too. Would you put your daughter in the spotlight if you knew what was coming to her? Gotta wonder. :hmm:
They did not had much of a chance of keeping her out. Apparently some leftist started a smear campaign against Palin, her daughter and her husband.
Among other things it was implied that: He raped the daughter, and the kid with down syndrome is actually the daughters child and they covered it up by declaring the kid is Palins.

Talk about being desperate:
Now, the internet propaganda machine is aiming at her husband apparently he had a DUI 20 years ago.

Didn't Obama admitted to smoking controlled supstances when he was younger?

The politicians say the family is off limits, unfortunately the media and the private individuals see it quite different.
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Clintons said hands off on Chelsa.
John McCain didn't believe Chelsea was off-limits.
Perhaps they made it the John McCain rule from that. Can you cite were John McCain did something by using Chelsea? I was not aware John thought Chelsea was fair game.

Back in the 90s..McCainns "famous" joke.
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
That looks to me like a tasteless joke. We are dealing with something entirely different that could have reprecussions on the outcome. A joke is one thing but not practicing what Palin is preaching is something all together different. Do as I say not as I do really does not fly for most. Although Obama said leave it alone, most of his attack dog campaign managers will not even though Obama said they will be fired. It is very easy to let things out like the Dems have on this campaign and then just apologize. It has gotten too easy. But what does it matter, the damage is done.
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