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Old 08-29-08, 09:11 AM   #1
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
The problem here is: you just see it from a single point of view, namely, how it is handled in Germany. While I do agree with you, here in the US race is a big issue, even if the insult or meaning just exists in ones imagination. In politics it is even worse.

Anyone remember the Black Hole comparison a while back?
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Old 08-29-08, 09:27 AM   #3
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
The problem here is: you just see it from a single point of view, namely, how it is handled in Germany. While I do agree with you, here in the US race is a big issue, even if the insult or meaning just exists in ones imagination. In politics it is even worse.

Anyone remember the Black Hole comparison a while back?
I am totally aware of that, however I did not get the impression that he used the word by mistake. He used it intentionally, to make clear his point.
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
The problem here is: you just see it from a single point of view, namely, how it is handled in Germany. While I do agree with you, here in the US race is a big issue, even if the insult or meaning just exists in ones imagination. In politics it is even worse.

Anyone remember the Black Hole comparison a while back?
I am totally aware of that, however I did not get the impression that he used the word by mistake. He used it intentionally, to make clear his point.
I do not disagree with this. However, my point stands. If the republicans or anyone not supporting Obama had said that he/she would be roasted on a stick.
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It suspect it was not ment in a derogatory manner. Jimmy is from Plains Georgia. Peanut farmer by nature. I suspect Jimmy was using this terminology to show that Obama had disadvantages in our society.
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He was just trying to make a point.

In my lifetime, in the year I was born, a black person in the USA couldn't use a public toilet unless it was designated for them, couldn't sit at the same table as a white person in a restaurant, had to sit in the back of a bus, couldn't use a drinking fountain, etc.

Now that same person can run for President and have a chance to be elected. President Carter is almost twice my age, so I can image what he has seen in his lifetime. The comment was meant to give Obama a pat on the back for demonstrating what is now possible in our country, and showing that to the rest of the world.

We still have a long way to go, so does the rest of the world, but at least we're making progress. I don't think it makes a difference who made the comment. Anything any public person says will be taken out of context for the purpose of sensationalizing a headline and selling news.
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