Tirpitz Voraus!

ZeeWolf · 08-17-08, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

This area I am still working on, my plan is to increase this to 32.18Kilometers (20miles) engagement range.
This may sound out of scope with the limited German radar but in reality the use of
telescopic range finders were common and reliable for line of sight engagements.

That is true, but remember that the longest hit ever made on a naval target was when Scharnhorst and Gneisenau sank HMS Glorious. Scharnhorst hit Glorious at a range of 26,465 yards, or about 13 nautical miles. And Scharnhorst definitely had the newest, best fire control equipment.

Wow Sailor Steve, it's obvious you have allot more knowledge on the subject then I do.
I really didn't know that. My motive is not accuracy at the 20 mile range but the
aggressiveness of opening fire at that range. I like the scenario of full steam ahead
into blazing gunfire. And let me mention the awesome effect of the gun flash over the horizon,
its beautiful man!.

-ZeeWolf

Sailor Steve · 08-17-08, 12:55 PM

Well, you're right ZeeWolf. While in both of Bismarck's battles fire was opened at around 21,000 yards (10 1/2 miles) the weather in both cases wasn't the best. On February 17 1944 USS Iowa and New Jersey engaged a Japanese light cruiser, Katori, two destroyers and a trawler. The cruiser was attacked and severely damaged by carrier planes. The battleships finished off the cruiser (46 16" and 124 5" shells!?) one destroyer and the trawler, and gave chase to the other destroyer, Nowaki.

The battleships opened fire at 35,000 yards, and continued firing by rangefinder, radar and spotter plane until the destroyer disappeared at 39,000 yards. Since at that range the shells were taking more than a minute to reach the target, Nowaki's captain later reported that when he saw the flash from the guns he would immediately take evasive action, avoiding the battleships' shells by a fair amount.

Ignoring the fact that they didn't hit, it remains true that they could have hit, and they obviously thought it worth a try. So you're right, they should open fire at extreme range in the game. They just shouldn't have much chance of hitting anything at those ranges.

ZeeWolf · 08-17-08, 05:10 PM

Wow again Sailor Steve, that is some amazing accounts. One must wonder how much
effect 16inch shells roaring in your direction have. I imagine Nowaki's captain even
though there was a slight chance of being hit, for a full minute must have been gripped
with terror.

Each miss there must have been cheers all over that ship even if the celebration was brief.

USSDorado · 08-22-08, 02:21 AM

Is this baby up for download anywhere? She's a beaut and i would love to cruise the waters with that. Nice job to all who worked on it!

ZeeWolf · 08-22-08, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by USSDorado

Is this baby up for download anywhere? She's a beaut and i would love to cruise the waters with that. Nice job to all who worked on it!

Not yet, but I have been working on it. The Tirpitz is all but finished with the flicker issue. I'm now about done with the Bismarks major problems although this kind of stuff takes time.

-ZeeWolf

USSDorado · 08-23-08, 12:00 AM

Hey Zeewolf i understand and appreciate the work you are doing on these fine vessels

. I will sit here and wait patiently

until you are finished. I just wanted to make sure i didnt miss a download somewhere for Tirpitz lol. Thanks again for all your hard work im sure it will be well worth the wait!

ZeeWolf · 08-23-08, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by USSDorado

Hey Zeewolf i understand and appreciate the work you are doing on these fine vessels

. I will sit here and wait patiently

until you are finished. I just wanted to make sure i didnt miss a download somewhere for Tirpitz lol. Thanks again for all your hard work im sure it will be well worth the wait!

Thanks Mate I appreciate that

-ZeeWolf

08-17-08, 12:55 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Well, you're right ZeeWolf. While in both of Bismarck's battles fire was opened at around 21,000 yards (10 1/2 miles) the weather in both cases wasn't the best. On February 17 1944 USS Iowa and New Jersey engaged a Japanese light cruiser, Katori, two destroyers and a trawler. The cruiser was attacked and severely damaged by carrier planes. The battleships finished off the cruiser (46 16" and 124 5" shells!?) one destroyer and the trawler, and gave chase to the other destroyer, Nowaki. The battleships opened fire at 35,000 yards, and continued firing by rangefinder, radar and spotter plane until the destroyer disappeared at 39,000 yards. Since at that range the shells were taking more than a minute to reach the target, Nowaki's captain later reported that when he saw the flash from the guns he would immediately take evasive action, avoiding the battleships' shells by a fair amount. Ignoring the fact that they didn't hit, it remains true that they could have hit, and they obviously thought it worth a try. So you're right, they should open fire at extreme range in the game. They just shouldn't have much chance of hitting anything at those ranges. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-22-08, 02:21 AM	#4
USSDorado Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 12 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Is this baby up for download anywhere? She's a beaut and i would love to cruise the waters with that. Nice job to all who worked on it! __________________

08-23-08, 12:00 AM	#6
USSDorado Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 12 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Hey Zeewolf i understand and appreciate the work you are doing on these fine vessels . I will sit here and wait patiently until you are finished. I just wanted to make sure i didnt miss a download somewhere for Tirpitz lol. Thanks again for all your hard work im sure it will be well worth the wait! __________________

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08-17-08, 05:10 PM	#3
ZeeWolf Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Great NorthWest Posts: 1,724 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 1	Wow again Sailor Steve, that is some amazing accounts. One must wonder how much effect 16inch shells roaring in your direction have. I imagine Nowaki's captain even though there was a slight chance of being hit, for a full minute must have been gripped with terror. Each miss there must have been cheers all over that ship even if the celebration was brief.