[REL]OM V40X Beta

[W4chund]

Whooooot, u can´t release a Patch all 5 Minutes after we reporting a Bug???

Don´t Care, i´m not awaiting that u disregard ur Live and spending all ur Time to clear the Butch from the SH4 developors. Do like u want, notice the Reports from the Gamers and take the Time u needed. I´m know Programming is very difficult and Testers, like me, who can´t explain a bug exactly in ur Language are not easy to Handle.
But i´m a One who can wait.

By the way, i startet a new Career in Feb. 1941, 7th Flt. Habour Nice. I were send to a Point SW of England to cut the US- GB Supply Line. On the half Way i found a very Large Convoy Heading from South to England. My Question, is it correct this Convoy has 3/4 Vessels of Neutral Countrys in it ( Greece, Panama, Argentinia, Spain)? There were only 6 of 20 Vessels from US and UK + 4 Escort Ships.

[cgjimeneza]

[quote
By the way, i startet a new Career in Feb. 1941, 7th Flt. Habour Nice. I were send to a Point SW of England to cut the US- GB Supply Line. On the half Way i found a very Large Convoy Heading from South to England. My Question, is it correct this Convoy has 3/4 Vessels of Neutral Countrys in it ( Greece, Panama, Argentinia, Spain)? There were only 6 of 20 Vessels from US and UK + 4 Escort Ships.[/quote]

think it this way...

you can sail alone, be lighted and cross your fingers, or you can hitch yourself to a convoy.

another thing... what if you are a greek vessel hired to transport some cargo...its not only the flag you fly but what bussiness you are involved in...

think about it

Doenitz changed the ROE of the Uboat arm many times, and if a ship is in a declared war zone, he`s taking a risk, thats what calls for your judgement in wether to engage a ship flying a neutral flag or not...

you can consider that while Argentina and Panama dont have much of a navy they have signed a mutual defence agreement with the US, so firing on them can be bad for von Ribbentrop to explain, another is that Argentina has a population of Italian and German extraction and they are a bit pro Germany at the time (the Spee might have survived if it had gone to Buenos Aires instead of Montevideo)

so at the end it comes to your judgement, enjoy the game, we know a lot of things the Kaleuns of old didnt and the game engine is not omnipresent so we have to decide for ourselves a lot of things

[lurker_hlb3]

This is a response to various bug reports from beta 2

Same crash bug with 6th Flotilla in July 1942.

Corrected

Chose late 1944, VIIC and loaded it with all the heaviest flaks and propped it full of torpedoes, started mission and CTD. (It CTD`ed while loading) Earlier 1944 worked.

11th Flotilla, September 1944, VIIC41, crashed when loading the mission.

Corrected

Another bug: 10th Flotilla still causing a CTD in 1943

Unable to recreate. Tried both the IXC & IXC/40

Re the equipment of conning towers and such, this is second priority, but it still bugs me. How can I remove all that fancy radar?

and every VIIC from 1943 has Radar.

Currently FUMO30 Radar start showing up on 1 March 1943. This date is based on the following statement at U-Boat.net

FuMO 30

This was an improved version of the rotating mast version of FMG 41G (gU), with a direction finder added, ready in late 1942. It was built into all U-boats. However, it was easily disabled by depth charges or bombs, and the antennas corroded in the salt water. Commanders did not like to use it, because they feared that it gave away their position.

http://www.uboat.net/technical/radar.htm

Also, I'd suggest increasing the lethality of aircraft bombs/depth charges adar.

And if they attacked I often had heavy damage, but never fatal damage. It seems still that japanese aircraft are more lethal than british, which is the wrong way around.

The aircraft are currently are loaded with various airborne depth charges

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMBR_ASW.htm

I will look into giving them a little bit bigger boom.

Re the torpedoes, I don't get any guided torps when I start a career in 1944. Only normal and FAT/LUT.Re the torpedoes, I don't get any guided torps when I start a career in 1944. Only normal and FAT/LUT.

AFAIK T-V should be available from late 1943 on all boats.

The T5 is now set for 1943-09-01 based on this statement from Uboat.net

The Zaunköning (Wren) came into service during the autumn of 1943

http://www.uboat.net/technical/torpedoes.htm

Also, the final conning tower of the VIIC still has no Radar warning receiver

At least the final conning tower should have a RWR slot.

This was a "bug" in the "stock settings" of the UpgradePack.upc file

Switching to Attack Map. Select Salve and both Rear tubes V/VI. Gyro angle Switch starting to whirl around.
This Effect is also displayed in the Com. Center.

This will only happen if you have the periscope in the "default" position of 000 when you select the "aft torpedo tubes". If you move the periscope a few degrees left or right of 000 the "problems" goes away.

Might be already a known issue because it's just an eyecandy thingy and therefore not fixed yet.. anyway... found these little glitches on the VIIb (7th Flottilla, Kiel, 3rd of Sept '39).

Corrected with ZeeWolf new Turms

But I second that on Brunsbüttel instead of Kiel. As long as the "auto Kanal waypoint" of SH3 doesnt come back, navigating the NOK is simply a nuisance.

Und wo es grad so schön ist, wäre Super wenn man es einbauen könnte die durchquerung des Nord- Ostsee Kanales zu überspringen und Brunsbüttel als Startpunkt hat, wenn Kile der Heimathafen ist und man ausserhalb des Hafen starten möchte. Im Moment ist es sehr mühselig durch den Kanal zu kommen.

Update “at sea” departure point for Kiel to the western exit of the Kiel canal at Brunsbüttel



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Beta 3 will release on Saturday

[AntEater]

I would really suggest to remove the radar alltogether, since the mechanical unreliability is not there in SH4. It gives a totally unrealistic advantage to late war careers.
I've read a lot of books about the submarine war, and the only time I've read about a working radar that was actually used was about a hohentwiel set installed in U 234 on its abortive japan voyage. That was May 1945.
A whole lot of people didn't even know that radar for submarines was available!
I know U 995 carries Hohentwiel as well, but keep in mind that the present condition is not historic.
U 995 was just under refit into a snorkel boat when the war ended but made all its patrols without Snorkel and without Radar.

[Wilcke]

...thanks for the Western exit...one piece of realism that after a hundred transits one can do without!

Brilliant stuff!

[Orion2012]

Originally Posted by Wilcke

...thanks for the Western exit...one piece of realism that after a hundred transits one can do without!

Brilliant stuff!

Agreed. Sailing the Kiel Canal is just one thing I can't do at 4x time compression. I would almost rather just sail around!

Also On January 6th 1944, out of Penang I received orders from COMSUBPAC??

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by Orion2012

Agreed. Sailing the Kiel Canal is just one thing I can't do at 4x time compression. I would almost rather just sail around!

Also On January 6th 1944, out of Penang I received orders from COMSUBPAC??

As I have stated before, that there are certain files that I will not change because of compatibility with others. The “menu.txt” file is one of those files. If you wish to change the read out from COMSUBPAC to BdU, go to Data/Menu and open menu.txt with “wordpad” and look for the following:

4193=COMSUBPAC

And change it to read

4193=BdU

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by AntEater

I would really suggest to remove the radar alltogether, since the mechanical unreliability is not there in SH4. It gives a totally unrealistic advantage to late war careers.
I've read a lot of books about the submarine war, and the only time I've read about a working radar that was actually used was about a hohentwiel set installed in U 234 on its abortive japan voyage. That was May 1945.
A whole lot of people didn't even know that radar for submarines was available!
I know U 995 carries Hohentwiel as well, but keep in mind that the present condition is not historic.
U 995 was just under refit into a snorkel boat when the war ended but made all its patrols without Snorkel and without Radar.

Based on addition research form “The Encyclopedia of U-boats, From 1904 to Present” and "Warship Pictorial #27 Kriegsmarine Type VII U-Boats", the only radar that will be used in OM will be the FUMO 61 Hohentwiel with a start data of Sept 1 1943. The following U-Boats will be equipped with this radar Type VIIC, Type VIIC/42, Type 9C, Type 9C/40 and Type 9D2

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by AntEater

I would really suggest to remove the radar alltogether, since the mechanical unreliability is not there in SH4. It gives a totally unrealistic advantage to late war careers.
I've read a lot of books about the submarine war, and the only time I've read about a working radar that was actually used was about a hohentwiel set installed in U 234 on its abortive japan voyage. That was May 1945.
A whole lot of people didn't even know that radar for submarines was available!
I know U 995 carries Hohentwiel as well, but keep in mind that the present condition is not historic.
U 995 was just under refit into a snorkel boat when the war ended but made all its patrols without Snorkel and without Radar.

Do you have Eberhard Rössler's book on U-boat development? He writes about how 64 FuMO61 Hohentwiel sets had been installed in operational boats by 20 September 1944, with a further 32 planned. U-862, operating out of Penang, reported it was picking up merchant contacts at about 7.5km or so with the gear. A further dozen or so boats had reported it was succesfully used as a aircraft warning device, a tactic reflected by Current Order No. 42.

Now, if you're talking about FuMO29, then yeah, that radar set was a piece of junk and wasn't installed in many boats. FuMO30 - who knows? I've only seen the quote by Uboat.net that says it was installed in "all boats."

[Strelich]

One thing I noticed was that the Fumo30 radar in the Type 7s 'float' above the conning tower for me, and it is a solid object, as I learned when going under a boat . Also, it seems in starting the 1941 campaign start date with the Type 2D that my first mission is a recon mission to Fremantle.

As an aside, which I don't know if something can be done with it or not, is that the 30th Flotilla 'ends' (historically I presume) in September 1944, so when missions start in that flotilla after that, I start in a hostile port of Costanza.

Unfortunately I am not in front of my home computer, otherwise I would double check all of these. Oh, and I also get a 'no decoys' when attempting to use them regardless of what is seen prior to starting missions, also in the Type 7.

I'm running TM+RSRDC+OMv4, if that's relevant. And excellent work, by the way. I'm enjoying every bit of it in SH4.

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by Strelich

One thing I noticed was that the Fumo30 radar in the Type 7s 'float' above the conning tower for me, and it is a solid object, as I learned when going under a boat . Also, it seems in starting the 1941 campaign start date with the Type 2D that my first mission is a recon mission to Fremantle.

As an aside, which I don't know if something can be done with it or not, is that the 30th Flotilla 'ends' (historically I presume) in September 1944, so when missions start in that flotilla after that, I start in a hostile port of Costanza.

Unfortunately I am not in front of my home computer, otherwise I would double check all of these. Oh, and I also get a 'no decoys' when attempting to use them regardless of what is seen prior to starting missions, also in the Type 7.

I'm running TM+RSRDC+OMv4, if that's relevant. And excellent work, by the way. I'm enjoying every bit of it in SH4.

Also, it seems in starting the 1941 campaign start date with the Type 2D that my first mission is a recon mission to Fremantle.

That been fixed

One thing I noticed was that the Fumo30 radar in the Type 7s 'float' above the conning tower for me, and it is a solid object, as I learned when going under a boat

I'm not sure what your trying to tell me here ?

Oh, and I also get a 'no decoys' when attempting to use them regardless of what is seen prior to starting missions, also in the Type 7.

That should be corrected now