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Old 07-19-08, 09:56 AM   #1
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Columbian drug sub picking up or delivering a load of coke ?:p

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Old 07-19-08, 09:59 AM   #2
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Caption of two fisherman : Pesky Colombo subs are everywhere now damnit

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Old 07-19-08, 10:00 AM   #3
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I once saw something similar where a Russian submarine surfaced underneath an old man and a boy in a boat (or maybe they were ice fishing, it's been a long time) and they shared Nestle Crunch bars.

Incredible stuff.
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I think they're faked. If you look closely at the first photo the black cable (boom stay?) passes in front of most of the periscopes but is partially obscured by the camouflaged one.
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Old 07-19-08, 10:10 AM   #5
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Well there was that one accident where the US sub rammed the Japanese ship, created a lot of bad blood I remember.
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Old 07-19-08, 10:36 AM   #6
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That's one crazy photo for sure ...

Reminds me of a sea story ... we were in the South China sea one time at about 64' snorkeling on the USS Salmon SS-573 when we heard a big bang, secure from snorkeling, take a look around with number one scope, suface, surface ...

The bow was covered with a near-by fishing boats fishing nets, not a big modern fishing boat, but an old tired Chinese type. We cut it off and sent a diver down to make sure no damage to the underside.

While waiting for clearence to dive again the fishing boat hails us and demands money for their nets. The chief of the boat takes up a collection from the crew and gives the poor fisherman the money.

"Okey dokey you guys can go now" The fishing boat pushes off.

He was happy and we slide back under the waves.

Year 1963 ...


P.S. notice the third picture from the top and how the boat is going the other direction, plus the background clouds are all different ... placement of the mast is different in two pictures too.
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Old 07-19-08, 11:30 AM   #7
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It´s the argentine ARA Santa Cruz, a TR 1700 class. Back in the ´80s the most advanced SSK.

The pics aren´t a fake. Are real and were part of Mr. Ricardo Fuchs´collection.

Another one (same collection)

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Well if the pics aren't fake then what is going on in the first two pics? Some kind of navy version of 'playing chicken'?
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Old 07-19-08, 11:54 AM   #9
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Well if the pics aren't fake then what is going on in the first two pics? Some kind of navy version of 'playing chicken'?
No, it's Bernard playing Marco Polo
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The first picture has a sled that you tow, perhaps a torpedo retrevier boat?
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I think they're faked. If you look closely at the first photo the black cable (boom stay?) passes in front of most of the periscopes but is partially obscured by the camouflaged one.
That's...kinda the point of camoflage. To make things "disappear."


And about the whole "not detecting it on sonar," well, a boat with it's engine(s) off dosen't make much noise... If you look closely, there is not the slightest sign of a stern wake from the boat, and it's not that uncommon for a skipper to shut down the engines when stopped for a bit. In fact, it's been done on every fishing boat I've been on.

Just my opinion.
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Old 07-21-08, 09:43 AM   #12
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One of the things I love (can't stand) about the internet is how people have become so paranoid about looking gauche, unsavvy or unwordly that they immediately label even the most triflingly unusual photographs/videos as "fake".
On the contrary, I feel people should be about ten times more skeptical and that it's crazy what they actually fall for. See, for example, the "whale landing on kayak" vid on YouTube. Idiot spammers post it with their own login, 10 000 other idiots post "OMG!" posts, some skeptic comes along and points out it's "fake" (read: taken from a commercial, not that they would know), and another idiot goes "oh, ****, found out, guess I'd better repost it somewhere else, then!".

Look at all the silly irrationality people fall for from GW deniers, psychics, fundies, alternative medicine, homeopaths, etc. Have a run through Snopes and check out what people actually believe.

A "Philosophy 101" course should be mandatory for all High School students.

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It goes without saying that those pictures are obviously real, and anyone who can't tell that at first sight needs to ease up with the Photoshop paranoia.
You say they're "obviously real", and post as evidence a site that simply reproduces them and offers no evidence?
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Old 07-21-08, 01:15 PM   #13
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Safe-Keeper,

I'm not going to get into an argument with you. Responding to the gullibility of others by adopting a default "no...no...no" position isn't intelligent, it's reflexive thinking. To be honest, I couldn't care less what people say about "viral" videos. I don't watch that sort of guff and I'm certainly not interested in whether people are taken in by them or not.

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You say they're "obviously real", and post as evidence a site that simply reproduces them and offers no evidence?
So now we're into needing "evidence"? For what - a submarine passing within a few feet of a small ship? What kind of sad bastard would take the time out to Photoshop that? Not exactly a big shark leaping at a guy hanging off a helicopter from a rope ladder, is it?
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So now we're into needing "evidence"?
I'm not the kind of person who believes things without evidence, no.

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For what - a submarine passing within a few feet of a small ship? What kind of sad bastard would take the time out to Photoshop that? Not exactly a big shark leaping at a guy hanging off a helicopter from a rope ladder, is it?
The kind of sad ****** who likes to have people around the Web spread his picture and gasp at the alleged moment of near-catastrophe. The same kind of "sad ******" spreads other interesting pictures, real or not.

But I agree, this has to be Bernard, or whatever his American counterpart is called (Parker?).
"Damnit, you nitwit, we nearly hit that trawler! Good thing they didn't see us! Parker, why didn't you sound the alarm?"
"Why, CO, you told me to watch out for enemy warships. If that's a warship, I'm a Swedish landlubb--"
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Old 07-21-08, 05:40 PM   #15
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I can tell you for a fact it's not a fishing boat - I used to work on one. It's a small Argentine naval vessel. Trawlers have nets and winches and winding gear, and the crew wear wellies. They don't have their deck space taken up with a big fluourescent RIB, and they're usually not painted naval grey.

This is a ship from the same class:



Note the boom and the orange RIB on the quarterdeck.
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