Americans are creative when it comes to weaponry

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Skybird

No it probably cannot. The opening angle of the spread pattern does not allow that. Also, the range is limited, roughly 500-600m. It is meant to take out those three, four infantrymen hiding inside that house behind the wall, and take them out quickly before they could let go their missile by shooting one round right into the window or through the wall, or for taking out some infantry some hundred meters away that might pose a threat by firing ATGMs or Panzerfaust.

The Swedes use a whole collection of different ammunition onboard the CV-9040 series of IFVs, every ammo type specialised for taking out armour, soft targets, helicopters, with delayed fuse, without, pointy shot or flechette type of shot etc. If you try that in SBP, you'll find ammo switching pretty much confusing at times, due to the flexible but complex ammo loading and switching options onboard the CV9040 - I always screw it up sooner or latter and thus load only twop types of ammo. Nothing beats the simplicity of the German Leopards in this regard, even the Abrams makes it slightly more complicated than necessary.

Even then, I wouldn't want to be near that thing when it goes off...

[kurtz]

I'll just post this without a value judgement

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/2225706.stm

Well okay, I will make a value judgement "moderation in war is imbecility" I think Jacky Fisher but he may have been quoting someone else, regarding u boats

[mcf1]

The new 40 million USD "toy" an excellent aircraft.

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by mcf1

The new 40 million USD "toy" an excellent aircraft.

I don't know why but the old WWI adage,"if Turkey attack us in the rear, will greece help?", sprang unbidden to mind when I read the bit about USA and greek co-operation at the start.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mcf1

The new 40 million USD "toy" an excellent aircraft.

Looks like a Falcon in mating season!

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by kurtz

I'll just post this without a value judgement

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/2225706.stm

Well okay, I will make a value judgement "moderation in war is imbecility" I think Jacky Fisher but he may have been quoting someone else, regarding u boats

Its not the weapon itself but its the context in which the Israeli army uses these things. They seem to needlessly mow down a lot of civilians during their operations.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Its not the weapon itself but its the context in which the Israeli army uses these things. They seem to needlessly mow down a lot of civilians during their operations.

A lot of civilians not trying not to hide active fighters in their middle.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by Skybird

A lot of civilians not trying not to hide active fighters in their middle.

Possibly elements of the Israeli army not giving a s**t if they waste a few Palestian civilians in the course of their ops?

[August]

Take a dead fighters weapon and LBE away and he becomes a dead civilian for counting purposes...

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by August

Take a dead fighters weapon and LBE away and he becomes a dead civilian for counting purposes...

Quite right, you cease to be a citizen when you make yourself into a shield for 'combatants' this is what annoys me about 'bloody sunday'.

[SUBMAN1]

Old idea of course, but its the delivery vehicle that is creative, and the type. Its tungsten, so even reinforced objects should be having a bad day!

-S