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Old 07-09-08, 10:40 PM   #1
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They would have to start all over again by over throwing the present regime and installing a pro-western president and cabinet.
We tried that already in 1953. Now look at where we are.

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It worked for a long time! Why not again?

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Because it is a ridiculously short sighted, hypocritical, dangerous excuse for a real foreign policy?

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Old 07-10-08, 05:44 PM   #2
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They would have to start all over again by over throwing the present regime and installing a pro-western president and cabinet.
We tried that already in 1953. Now look at where we are.

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It worked for a long time! Why not again?

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Because it is a ridiculously short sighted, hypocritical, dangerous excuse for a real foreign policy?

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What was that Japanese emperor's name back in 45?
Emperor Hirohito I think ... Japan got the hint, unconditional surrender
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Old 07-10-08, 06:35 PM   #3
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They would have to start all over again by over throwing the present regime and installing a pro-western president and cabinet.
We tried that already in 1953. Now look at where we are.

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It worked for a long time! Why not again?

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Because it is a ridiculously short sighted, hypocritical, dangerous excuse for a real foreign policy?

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What was that Japanese emperor's name back in 45?
Emperor Hirohito I think ... Japan got the hint, unconditional surrender
After we killed 3+% of their population. After we nuked them. After we stationed ~350K-400K (Including Brits, Aussies, New Zealand and whatnot) troops /when there wasn't even an insurgency worth noting/ to ensure nobody "tried anything". Yes, then they submitted unconditionally and we put a government there without anybody having the will to resist.

And we can't do that anymore. Not without a draft and the public widely backing a war. Bin Laden killed more American civilians than any Axis power and how many troops were stationed in Afghanistan?

Apples and oranges.

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Even if we killed 10% of Iran's civilian and military population and stationed 500k
international forces there we wouldn't have anything near peace in the region for a
long, long time.
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Even if we killed 10% of Iran's civilian and military population and stationed 500k
international forces there we wouldn't have anything near peace in the region for a
long, long time.
I was merely pointing out the fanatical Japanese only surrendered and had us stick a successful democratic government in place after a very long, very destructive war that was fought using every means we had.

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