Fallout 3 details

[CaptHawkeye]

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

In my case it's because lately, Bethesdas games . I don't have a review about Fallout 3 yet, this one's about Oblivion: http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=129

That stance is perfectly reasonable. My issue is with people like the hardcore NMA guys who are basically angry it isn't going to be EXACTLY like Fallout 1. I hate them so much. They've got lots of arguments but they all usually boil down to "it isn't fallout 1" and that's just stupid.

[SUBMAN1]

I think they are complaining about Fallout Tactics. I have it, but never played it. Fallout Tactics took a lot of what made Fallout and Fallout 2 great. It even went against the original story line, but this was in effort to make it multiplayer.

But wasn't that Interplay back then? Now you have Bethesda on the project. I really have a hard time beleiving that Bethesda is gonna screw this one up! I'm thinking this will be the Game Of The Year for 2009 and I'm probably right!

I'm personally looking forward to it.

-S

PS. And i just want to point out, I look forward to very few games these days (when I used to look forward to many titles in a given year). Most stuff is a rehash now days - like GTA. This looks like something new and fresh! I see an excuse to upgrade my video card already!

[Syxx_Killer]

I was reading on the Fallout 3 forum that if you can run Oblivion you should be able to run Fallout 3. I can run Oblivion pretty well for my computer and if that's the case I might just have to get this game. There was only one game I was looking forward to: C&C Red Alert 3. Now I got Fallout 3.

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer

I was reading on the Fallout 3 forum that if you can run Oblivion you should be able to run Fallout 3. I can run Oblivion pretty well for my computer and if that's the case I might just have to get this game. There was only one game I was looking forward to: C&C Red Alert 3. Now I got Fallout 3.

Fallout 3 is one of the 5 games I'm most looking forward to this year:

1. Empire: Total War
2. Spore
3. Fallout 3
4. Can't remember...
5. Can't remember...

[Captain Vlad]

I'm pretty excited about it. It seems like they're paying attention to what really made Fallout the game it was. Whether they'll be able to pull off another masterpiece...well, who can say?

I'm honestly getting tired of the 'but it's first person' crap. Wasteland was Fallout's inspiration...and Fallout ended up a better game despite not being in 16-colors with text-only combat.

[CaptHawkeye]

Let's be honest Vlad, the fanboys won't be pleased until we're all playing Fallout 1 with remastered sound effects and blood sprites.

[Syxx_Killer]

I wouldn't have liked the original Fallout games because, personally, I can't stand turn-based combat. It worked good for old 2D systems like NES (Dragon Warrior rocks! ) and SNES, but it just looks goofy in 3D games. That is the main reason I never got into games like Final Fantasy. When people talk about the "old Fallout" games, how old are we talking? How long has the Fallout series been around? Either way, I still say an apocalyptic free-roam RPG sounds great.

[CaptHawkeye]

Turn based combat was fine....for the 80s. Why it still has so many fans to this day is beyond me.

[Blacklight]

If you're interested, the guys who made Fallout put out a freebie miniatures wargame a long while back based on Fallout called Fallout Warfare. They now have it up as a free download. It includes the rules, printable miniatures, and even printable, foldable vehicles. It's not a bad game actually. It's hit the table a few times over here.

You can get everything for the game here:
http://fallout-rpg.narod.ru/Warfare.html

[Captain Vlad]

I have to admit I, personally, wouldn't be too unhappy with Fallout 1 with new blood sprites and sounds. But I won't turn down spiffy graphics and a first person interface either.

Turn based is a different experience than real-time, and while to some people it feels slow, I enjoy many turn based games. Sure, the high-speed 'ohmigod' aspect isn't there, but sometimes a slow pace is just as enjoyable as a frantic one.

At least according to my fiancee.

My big problem is shooting down something you haven't experienced yet.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer

I wouldn't have liked the original Fallout games because, personally, I can't stand turn-based combat. It worked good for old 2D systems like NES (Dragon Warrior rocks! ) and SNES, but it just looks goofy in 3D games. That is the main reason I never got into games like Final Fantasy. When people talk about the "old Fallout" games, how old are we talking? How long has the Fallout series been around? Either way, I still say an apocalyptic free-roam RPG sounds great.

Bethesda could have improved the game engine and used new effect features that todays PCs could have handled like Diablo 3. But they didn't.

They choose the easier the quicker and simpler way. The engine they're people already know how and built. Oblivion game... I have Morrowind and Oblivion. I've played Daggerfall. Oblivion has amazing graphic and amazing sound effects. I'm sure its sequel Oblivion with guns aka Fallout 3 will be even better. BUT its not a sequel to Fallout series. There is no relationship between the two. They destroyed it for there new image of FO world. Anyhow after you get over the special effects from Oblivion its a boring game.

They took out all the best features out that made Fallout fallout. They made it for mainly console world. PC now is being pushed aside for a larger market. Its about money. They're using the name to make money.

Yes I know all companies are in it for money... But Bethesda is greedy. They don't care about there fans.... If you know and have been with them for years you would understand what I'm saying.

Also its the tactics Bethesda does against anyone who discredits there product. There are plenty of forums and post explaining this.

Thats why I will not spend a cent. Its about principles.

Problem is most of the people don't care or just want there next game fix. Even if the game is pathetic or broken.

All I asked them to change there name from Fallout 3 to Fallout ______ whatever. Its not a sequel but it has some elements of Fallout world that is the truth.

[Captain Vlad]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

They took out all the best features out that made Fallout fallout.

Really? Did they take out:

A: Post apocalyptic setting?
B: Grim storytelling?
C: Consequences for actions including unforseen ones?
D: The trappings of the Fallout world (Super Mutants, Ghouls, BoS)?
E: Etc.

The answer on some of these is already 'no'. The answer on others...and just as importantly whether they were skillfully executed...won't be known until the full game is seen by the public.

You can growse about the move to FPS and how combat works all day; That is not what made Fallout the game it was, and it's not what'll make or break Fallout 3. The crap you're talking about is just window dressing which, unless there's something just plain wrong with how the system works, will not matter a whit when it comes to making 3 a true 'Fallout' game.

[CaptHawkeye]

They took out all the best features out that made Fallout fallout.

Like what? I hear this claim from every one of the NMA trolls i've ever come by and it always comes down to "I don't like anything not Fallout 1."

Yes I know all companies are in it for money... But Bethesda is greedy.

Black Isle Studio amd Interplay were companies too, albeit companies too stupid to keep their asses out of debt, but you're kidding yourself if you think their goal wasn't the money in your pocket.

They don't care about there fans.... If you know and have been with them for years you would understand what I'm saying.

You know, Bethesda is the very reason that Fallout even exists to this day. You'd figure the fans would be thanking Beth from saving their series from franchise death. But no, the evil Badthesda isn't orthodox enough for the Church of the Fallout Fans.

Thats why I will not spend a cent. Its about principles.

I'm sure your quality as a human being will come under question for giving into Bethesda's will and buying Fallout 3.

Problem is most of the people don't care or just want there next game fix. Even if the game is pathetic or broken.

98% of the time i'd agree with you on this. You know what the problem is this time? The game isn't out yet.

All I asked them to change there name from Fallout 3 to Fallout ______ whatever. Its not a sequel but it has some elements of Fallout world that is the truth. 07-09-2008 11:18 PM

Who cares?

[GlobalExplorer]

Wolfehunter seems to be the only 1 here who understands the difference between Fallout 1-2 and Oblivion

Are you aware of Age of Decadence, in development at http://www.irontowerstudio.com ? Ok it takes places in the roman empire but gameplay-wise it follows the spirit of fallout rpgs (post-apocalyptic, turn based, action points etc). This project is no vaporware and should be out in 1-2 years

[Captain Vlad]

You can growse about the move to FPS and how combat works all day; That is not what made Fallout the game it was, and it's not what'll make or break Fallout 3.

I really hate quoting myself, Global Explorer...but...when the message is obviously not getting through...

Isometric view and action points does not a Fallout make.