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Old 06-29-08, 11:28 PM   #1
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Funny you should mention database editing. I've been looking for a copy of SCedit (The Sub Command database editor) for a couple days now. That's the tool that you need to play with the sensors. As far as editing to change the acoustics of the various platforms, I'd have no idea how to even begin doing that... yet.
If I do manage to find a copy of SCedit, I'll let you know.

There is a DWedit on the Subguru site that does the same for Dangerous Waters database. I've been playing with that for the longest time working on my longtime project "The GI JOE mod". I'm working on designing the Cobra navy..slowly but surely... So far, I've been pretty much copying random platform models and re-skinning them to be black with the Cobra symbol on the side. I also need to get in there and do some weapon editing and or adding for the Cobra platforms. At the rate I'm going, it's going to be YEARS before I finish this thing though. It's a labor of love/hate hehe.
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Old 06-30-08, 03:28 AM   #2
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I have a copy. The site on which it was available no longer exists. As it is not my work I cannot put it out for genral release, but if you pm me with an e-mail address I'll send it to you.
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Old 06-30-08, 07:33 AM   #3
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Clive,

I have 1.01 as latest version, readme says 25.01.2002

Is there any later one?

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Same as mine, hitman.
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Old 06-30-08, 07:35 PM   #5
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Funny you should mention database editing. I've been looking for a copy of SCedit (The Sub Command database editor) for a couple days now. That's the tool that you need to play with the sensors. As far as editing to change the acoustics of the various platforms, I'd have no idea how to even begin doing that... yet.
If I do manage to find a copy of SCedit, I'll let you know.

There is a DWedit on the Subguru site that does the same for Dangerous Waters database. I've been playing with that for the longest time working on my longtime project "The GI JOE mod". I'm working on designing the Cobra navy..slowly but surely... So far, I've been pretty much copying random platform models and re-skinning them to be black with the Cobra symbol on the side. I also need to get in there and do some weapon editing and or adding for the Cobra platforms. At the rate I'm going, it's going to be YEARS before I finish this thing though. It's a labor of love/hate hehe.
That would be great! Because these boats need some tweaking. I understand that an older boat with a BQQ-5 would have less accoustical ability than one with the BQQ-5E and so forth. Our 637 boat was good enough to hear how fast another boats coolant pumps were running. So, I think some editing is needed here.
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Talk to TLAM Strike or Molon Labe. Maybe you could become an advisor for the next LWAMI version.

I personally think that the reason the sensors and acoustics are the way they are in the interest of playability and evening the playing field a little bit for multiplayer. I know that some things had to be altered a bit in the interest of playability durring the sims' development.
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Talk to TLAM Strike or Molon Labe. Maybe you could become an advisor for the next LWAMI version.

I personally think that the reason the sensors and acoustics are the way they are in the interest of playability and evening the playing field a little bit for multiplayer. I know that some things had to be altered a bit in the interest of playability durring the sims' development.
Agreed on that. An Idea would be to have a profile listing in a "read me". Because let's say I want to drive a "Permit" class boat and you want to drive the "Seawolf". I would not stand a chance in real life. But if we or others chose platforms from the same era then they should be matched somewhat. I think they tried doing that, but they went way too low on the performance of the "Cold war Era" boats. No! Strike that, I think the SSN-21 has a stinky accoustical performance too. But that Sierra can pick up a whale fart at 50k yards. I am waiting for Clive to send me some info on how to properly tweak the files. I just do solo stuff, but crave realism. Thanks for the info!
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LwAmi is DW only ... and I doubt anybody will spend any further time on SCX2. Since as far as DW goes other playable platforms aside from those already existing are a No Go ... well ...

Of course I dont count the highly illegal mods which can be found on the net which do allow you to play some other units.

However, given that initially this discussion was about SC anyway I think this is a moot point.

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Tweaking the files isn't very easy with the editor, I'm afraid. As there seem to be quite a few of you interested, I suppose I had better put a fairly comprehensive guide together. Be patient, though, it will take some time, and I am on holiday shortly.
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Tweaking the files isn't very easy with the editor, I'm afraid. As there seem to be quite a few of you interested, I suppose I had better put a fairly comprehensive guide together. Be patient, though, it will take some time, and I am on holiday shortly.
It would be so awesome to have a comprehensive guide to file editing for DW and Sub Command !! Having a good modding guide would really do wonders for increasing the number of people in the modding community !! Thanks !!!
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