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Old 06-28-08, 12:40 AM   #16
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If you have not noticed the netspeek style used on forums like this usually are used to convey an opinion of the education or mental stability of the person they are responding or talking about.
Well you better edumacate (sarcasm) all of us! We are waiting!

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Old 06-28-08, 05:39 AM   #17
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As usual, subman, an edited version of the article to 'prove' your point. Merely a proposal put forward by a parliamentary committee, just as all such bodies do all over the world all the time - and quickly dismissed as politically and financially unworkable. If you took the time to examine the activities of similar US political committees you would, I have no doubt, find plenty of ideas which never leave the drawing board.
As I would expect something like this to never leave the board, but as always, you Brits always seem to surprise to the point of disbelief! Your political committees are notoriously effective at draconian policy.

Just go look at all the threads started by STEED and you will have you answer on the likelihood of this passing. I'd say the odds are quite good!

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Well I'd love to know how you know that our lives get worse every day? You don't live here just cherry pick stuff off the internet to then spin to suit your point of view.
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Old 06-28-08, 05:55 AM   #18
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The bit in my post on solar panels was on the news here, Labour want so many houses to be fitted with them and I suspect that would be here in the SE of England where we get the better hotter weather.

All these things will happen as the oil crunch hits home, its just a matter of time. Plans for more nuclear reactors are well under away here but one idea Labour came up with about battery cars is way off for some 30 years or so.
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Old 06-28-08, 07:18 AM   #19
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Obviously a virtually free source of energy for a home has to be a good idea. However, whilst it may be good to incorporate into new buildings as a matter of course, it doesn't seem economical in an existing property.

We currently need our roof replacing, so I took a look at solar panel options:

1. To heat water only. As our boiler only heats the water we actually need, this is pointless.

2. Panels to actucally generate electricity. Sounds much more like it, doesn't it? Until you do the numbers. About £9,000 to fit, saving about £150pa on electricity in the English Midlands - where I live. Well, that equates to 53 years before it pays for itself. As I am 50 now, I will have long since subsided into a gibbering wreck smelling of urine before I get my money back.

Conclusion - keep my money and spend it on beer...
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Old 06-29-08, 05:13 AM   #20
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If they ever do bring this out the first thing i shall be doing is bording a plane to the USA or Russia and it will be a one way ticket !
Well, there is a ton of land left over here. Feel free! And get your citizenship so you can work on American nukes!

What I want to know is, what is it going to take for the Brits to stand up? Their lives get worse every day, yet no one does anything about it over there. Strange.

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Subman, I curious you seem to 'know' a lot about how bad things are over here in thre UK; have you ever even been to the UK?
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Old 06-29-08, 06:48 AM   #21
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The only good government is a small government that doesn't bother you much.

As far as Britain goes I've been there only twice but it seemed like a lovely country. Gas prices seemed rather high (this was when U.S. gas was only a dollar a gallon) and the taxes and gun control policies didn't suit me but other than that, very nice.
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Old 06-29-08, 07:02 AM   #22
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Get a load of this, on Country file today there was a article about wind power and Gordon Brown is setting up a greater number of wind turbines to fall in line with the EU co2 omissions target which will decrease our co2 but here's the catch, our electric bills are set to rocket sky high. Some trade off this is which is going to cause problems by 2020.
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Obviously a virtually free source of energy for a home has to be a good idea. However, whilst it may be good to incorporate into new buildings as a matter of course, it doesn't seem economical in an existing property.

We currently need our roof replacing, so I took a look at solar panel options:

1. To heat water only. As our boiler only heats the water we actually need, this is pointless.

2. Panels to actucally generate electricity. Sounds much more like it, doesn't it? Until you do the numbers. About £9,000 to fit, saving about £150pa on electricity in the English Midlands - where I live. Well, that equates to 53 years before it pays for itself. As I am 50 now, I will have long since subsided into a gibbering wreck smelling of urine before I get my money back.

Conclusion - keep my money and spend it on beer...
Nothing ever beats the realistic approach.

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2. Panels to actucally generate electricity. Sounds much more like it, doesn't it? Until you do the numbers. About £9,000 to fit, saving about £150pa on electricity in the English Midlands - where I live. Well, that equates to 53 years before it pays for itself. As I am 50 now, I will have long since subsided into a gibbering wreck smelling of urine before I get my money back.

Conclusion - keep my money and spend it on beer...
Is saving money the only reason someone would consider solar panels?
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2. Panels to actucally generate electricity. Sounds much more like it, doesn't it? Until you do the numbers. About £9,000 to fit, saving about £150pa on electricity in the English Midlands - where I live. Well, that equates to 53 years before it pays for itself. As I am 50 now, I will have long since subsided into a gibbering wreck smelling of urine before I get my money back.

Conclusion - keep my money and spend it on beer...
Is saving money the only reason someone would consider solar panels?
Personally speaking - pretty much yes. I wouldn't go spending 9-odd grand on a solar panel system without being fairly confident I was going get some financial benefit.
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