The real wartime recognition manual

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

It reinforces my view that stadimeter readings should remain very inaccurate in order for the game to be accurate. It also shows that it is way too easy to identify ships in SH4. I would estimate our conventional targeting accuracy is too good by a factor of two. If you implement a mast height rectification mod, such as that by a modder I admire greatly, you make SH4 into an arcade game with no connection to reality.

I'm making (as you've probably seen) a Mast Height and Draft Mod for RFB where the mast heights given for each ship are based on the data from the recognition manuals. I've found that some measurements come out pretty close, while others are off by a decent margin. Just goes to show how much the fog of war can play a part in games like this if modeled correctly.

[Suicide Charlie]

Didn't somebody develop a recognition manual for SHIII that used adapted information and pictures from actual manuals?

[Petur]

Nice

[virtualpender]

Those are excellent! Where did you come by an original of ONI 208-J?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

I'm making (as you've probably seen) a Mast Height and Draft Mod for RFB where the mast heights given for each ship are based on the data from the recognition manuals. I've found that some measurements come out pretty close, while others are off by a decent margin. Just goes to show how much the fog of war can play a part in games like this if modeled correctly.

You know you're gonna get a lot of complaints: "Some of your heights are WAY off! My research shows that!"

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Originally Posted by virtualpender

Those are excellent! Where did you come by an original of ONI 208-J?

http://www.history-on-cdrom.com/id167.htm

[Rockin Robbins]

Dick O'Kane! Dick O'Kane! Dick O'Kane!

Heh, heh, heh! This is the best thing that ever happened for the Dick O'Kane targeting method. Think I'll double the price.

[Hylander_1314]

Why not just use those in the book? They look close enough to the models in the game, and would really add to the immersion. Especially if there was a set for the IJN ships too.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Why not just use those in the book? They look close enough to the models in the game, and would really add to the immersion. Especially if there was a set for the IJN ships too.

Ehm, read my post above. All ships, including warships, will use the mast heights from the recognition manuals.

[Hylander_1314]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Ehm, read my post above. All ships, including warships, will use the mast heights from the recognition manuals.

Sorry if I wasn't more concise Luke, what I was curious about, was the use of the entire pages themselves, not just info alone ( unless there are copyright issues), especially seeing the "Restricted" notations on the pages. Can't wait to see the finished product though

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Sorry if I wasn't more concise Luke, what I was curious about, was the use of the entire pages themselves, not just info alone ( unless there are copyright issues), especially seeing the "Restricted" notations on the pages. Can't wait to see the finished product though

I guess that could be done at some point if I really wanted to do it. The "Restricted" text, by the way, just means that during the war it was a classified document and so its use was, as you might guess, restricted to those who really needed it.