[REL] Run Silent, Run Deep - The Campaign

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by Zero Niner

I'm currently using the TM version of RSRDC + patch 7.
To update RSRDC, all I need to do is remove patch 7 & install patch 8?
Thanks for confirmation/clarification.

That is correct

[Suicide Charlie]

I have TMO + RSRD installed. I have to say that I'm glad that I came back to the subsim community when I did. When I left SHIV was still floundering with all of the out-of-the-box bugs and there was much doom and gloom about patches. There were many debate threads about "They've abandoned us."

I have to say that RSRD makes SHIV a whole new game and really freshens it up. Great job Lurker.

[BooBooLovesAll]

Originally Posted by tedhealy

You aren't looking in the right places, plenty of ships out there in RSRD in traffic lanes.

Anybody ever create a map of those traffic lanes?

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

There is no problems I know of with TMO 152

Hey Lurker, FYI. The aircraft cfg files in the latest version of RSRD overwrite all the work Ducimus did 'up-armoring' the aircraft in TMO 152. The file "ALBS_H8K.cfg" is a good example.

The RSRD version of the file does not contain this:

[Loadout 1]
Name=16x250Kg Bombs
Type=2

[Loadout 2]
Name=8xDepth Charge
Type=5

Just thought you should know. Or am I worried about nothing here? Anyway, are there any other areas that might be a problem?
.

[Suicide Charlie]

Originally Posted by BooBooLovesAll

Anybody ever create a map of those traffic lanes?

That's what I'm talking about. Whenever I get into a patrol I go to my Nav map and do the best I can to recreate whatever shipping lanes were present in the timeframe and area I'll be operating. I wonder if there's a map tool mod that adds a tool that will allow you to draw curved lines.

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by Suicide Charlie

That's what I'm talking about. Whenever I get into a patrol I go to my Nav map and do the best I can to recreate whatever shipping lanes were present in the timeframe and area I'll be operating. I wonder if there's a map tool mod that adds a tool that will allow you to draw curved lines.

They are out there. I am running TMO 152 with RSRD 371 patch 8 and this is what can be had if you think about hwere the ships must travel and set your search pattern to take advantage of any choke points. - This is the passage between Borneo and Celebes late May 1942. They were everywhere at that time, but 2 months earlier the Japanese would not have been making the push south and the pickings would have been much slimmer although the same choke point would have existed.

As you can see, Lurker put my patrol area close enough to take advantage but with a large enough patrol radius I "could" have gone chasing off away from the most logical patrol area. Some times the obvious is not quite as obvious as this- but then again, that choice of where to patrol within the given area is all up to the captain's descretion.

Choose wisely young Skywalker. :hmm:

[Suicide Charlie]

I'm not looking for like a road map to success. I actually more interesting in tools that will allow me to log my own and create a map with what intellegence I've pick up over my encounters during parols in a particular boat.

Oddly enough I seem to just be missing shipping at my patrol zones with RSRD. My first patrol with the USS Tambor was a good one simply because I caught an IJN task force with two HIRYU's about 700nm WNW of Wake. I took a flat top. I lost the sound contact while I dropped back into a shadow position to recharge batteries and reload. I proceed on to my patrol area which was 130nm SE of Okinawa. The only contacts I had were aircraft. Of course I couldn't do much prowling due to fuel reserves. I was hoping to get extremely lucky and get a Maru or two moving from the East coast Japanese ports down to the Phillipines, Boreno, Formosa (Tiawan), etc to be dumped in my lap.

The patrol I'm on now sent me just on the West side of Okinawa in the East China Sea. I expected to be almost walking across a sea of steel as past experiences there have always been fruitful. Not a single thing. Now they're sending me back SSE of Okinawa.

It's March 11th, 1942 in my game.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Suicide Charlie

I'm not looking for like a road map to success. I actually more interesting in tools that will allow me to log my own and create a map with what intellegence I've pick up over my encounters during parols in a particular boat.

Oddly enough I seem to just be missing shipping at my patrol zones with RSRD. My first patrol with the USS Tambor was a good one simply because I caught an IJN task force with two HIRYU's about 700nm WNW of Wake. I took a flat top. I lost the sound contact while I dropped back into a shadow position to recharge batteries and reload. I proceed on to my patrol area which was 130nm SE of Okinawa. The only contacts I had were aircraft. Of course I couldn't do much prowling due to fuel reserves. I was hoping to get extremely lucky and get a Maru or two moving from the East coast Japanese ports down to the Phillipines, Boreno, Formosa (Tiawan), etc to be dumped in my lap.

The patrol I'm on now sent me just on the West side of Okinawa in the East China Sea. I expected to be almost walking across a sea of steel as past experiences there have always been fruitful. Not a single thing. Now they're sending me back SSE of Okinawa.

It's March 11th, 1942 in my game.

Look in the shallow water. I find a lot there. Sometimes a patrol will be fruitless. Since Lurkers last patch, I'm finding a lot of vessels running the slot south of Celebes.

[Suicide Charlie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Look in the shallow water. I find a lot there. Sometimes a patrol will be fruitless. Since Lurkers last patch, I'm finding a lot of vessels running the slot south of Celebes.

The Sea of Celebes is usually pretty decent. Problem is I'm operating out of Pearl and Midway, so my time on station and ability to roam is limited.

[cgjimeneza]

If I know Lurker he´s thinking like a ship driver.... moving his convoys inshore

they like shallow water, were no subs dare go in. Were you cant hide...

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Hey Lurker, FYI. The aircraft cfg files in the latest version of RSRD overwrite all the work Ducimus did 'up-armoring' the aircraft in TMO 152. The file "ALBS_H8K.cfg" is a good example.

The RSRD version of the file does not contain this:

[Loadout 1]
Name=16x250Kg Bombs
Type=2

[Loadout 2]
Name=8xDepth Charge
Type=5

Just thought you should know. Or am I worried about nothing here? Anyway, are there any other areas that might be a problem?
.

Yes I'm well aware of this, however the changes in TMO 152 conflict with some setting in the campaign layer. Removely or changes to RSRDC files may cause a CTD

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Suicide Charlie

The Sea of Celebes is usually pretty decent. Problem is I'm operating out of Pearl and Midway, so my time on station and ability to roam is limited.

Run 10 kts to the main island of Japan. When on station, cruise at 5-7 kts to conserve.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by cgjimeneza

If I know Lurker he´s thinking like a ship driver.... moving his convoys inshore

they like shallow water, were no subs dare go in. Were you cant hide...

In the slot south of Celebes there were two nice vessels but the shallows would have prevented me from even hitting periscope depth. They laughed at me as they cruised by and all I could do was shake my fist at them. But, when I made the choke point into the slot out of the Celebes Sea I got two fat tankers. No aviation fuel made it to Java

[Suicide Charlie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Run 10 kts to the main island of Japan. When on station, cruise at 5-7 kts to conserve.

That's about usual for my proceedure. Cruise at Standard Bell for the best fuel effiecency and try to use 2/3rds Bell after that.

Here's a question that I acutally have been wondering about though. In order to charge your batteries you burn marine diesel. Makes sense, I'm not stranger to this, I work on 100+ ton boats and the same prinicples are applied for generators and the like.

With that in mind does switching between diesel and electric engines conserve that much or if any fuel at all? It seemed in SHIII it was definitely noticable. But, I've been in situations in SHIV where I'm trying to conserve every gallon of fuel I have in order to return to a re-fueling station so I'll switch between running on the surface and submerged, typically at 2/3rds Bell.

[AVGWarhawk]

The submarine is a surface vessel that can submerge for a time. With that in mind stay on the surface as long as possible. As you recharge batteries you burn more fuel(in game). I do not submerge until I absolutely have too. This helps greatly with reducing fuel consumption.

Now we return Lurkers thread back to RSRD