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Old 06-13-08, 04:16 AM   #1
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Well whatever - looks like Labour won't even put up a candidate, and instead he'll be against the former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie

And the Conservative party is furious with him.

Hilarious!
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Old 06-13-08, 06:16 AM   #2
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No I was reading David Cameron is ok with him doing this.
The conservatives generally like higher security eg defence, put in terms of personal liberties they are very pro those too.

For example, after WWII we still had ID cards under the labour govt. They were abolished by the next Tory govt.

It seems all that was said about Labour being tax and spend are coming true. Davis might have pulled a stunt as he is pretty certain to win but it makes the point and maybe people will wake up. Only thing is if that Sun twat stands then The Sun will be sure to make trouble. Thing is what does the Sun care, what does Murdoch gain from us having a 42 day detention limit?
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Old 06-13-08, 06:32 AM   #3
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For example, after WWII we still had ID cards under the labour govt. They were abolished by the next Tory govt.
If I remember my history correctly, churchill was loathe to introduce ID cards in the first place, but wartime circumstance dictated that it wuld be prudent. All the same he hated the idea and promised to rescind the decision to have them when the war was over. He never got the chance though as he was not re-elected.

RE: murdoch - what does he stand to gain? loads of crappy comic newspapers sold as the proles snatch up the super dumbed down version of events fuelled by simple simon style headlines in that miserable rag. The only saving grace for the sun are the tits on page three; at least they don't pretend to be anything other than what they are...
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Old 06-13-08, 08:10 AM   #4
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Wow....
Brit politics is so... so... Brit!
I think Mr. Davis' intentions are best explained here
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Old 06-13-08, 09:43 AM   #5
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I was talking with a guy at work and he was thinking that what really happened is that Davis went to Cameron and said he was pissed off with the result, when we get in power we'll repeal it. Cameron said, "No we won't" Davis is pissed off at Cameron and so has decided to pull this stunt.

I can understand his arguments about the 42 day rule, but this does seem to achieve nothing.
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Old 06-14-08, 06:04 AM   #6
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A Politican taking a stand !?!?!

I need a drink!

Seriously, good on him. This issue needs even more attention drawing to it.
Also time to be grateful for the House of Lords.
Yes they're a bunch of unelected geriatric bed wetters,
But there's no way they'll let this one through.
It'll be sent back to the lower house in no time.
Then what deals will Brown have to do?
If he's still got a job there?
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Old 06-14-08, 08:17 AM   #7
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Indeed, its already seen as a very hollow victory for brown, especially as he had to practicly "buy" it from other sources. If this gets chucked out of the Lords, not only will it make him look like a fool, but it will give the Tories even more ammunition, especially with Mr Davis' public "resignation" a few days ago. The only downside to this is that it is now the Conservatives which will be under the public glare, instead of Labour. Mr Brown must have been laughing his socks off when he heard the news about David Davis.

Another point, even though Davis is really not resigning, he is throwing away a very good position in any future cabinet by doing this. He has made a great career sacrafice to make a personal stand in what he genuinely believes in, that is a rare thing indeed in the world of politics. Therefore, he has my full support and good luck to him in the upcoming election.
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