My mods order check!

[John W. Hamm]

It might help also if we knew what issue your having. Judgeing by your list I'm sure there are a few

[THE_MASK]

I dont think sobers better crew II for (1.4) would work with 1.5. I could be wrong .

[THE_MASK]

Im slow , ok its a joke

[Vorkapitan]

Originally Posted by John W. Hamm

It might help also if we knew what issue your having. Judgeing by your list I'm sure there are a few

There is no deck gun crew slots and

Ship damage from torps is missing in campain olnly.

[Vorkapitan]

Originally Posted by John W. Hamm

It might help also if we knew what issue your having. Judgeing by your list I'm sure there are a few

There is no deck gun crew slots and

Ship damage from torps is missing in campain only.

i think its just as important to uninstall mods only in the exact reverse order to prevent files going back into the wrong mods.

if a mod replaces an already replaced file and its uninstalled out of order then the first replaced file isnt restored before that mod is uninstalled so it will take whatever file it has in it at the time wont it?

[Paajtor]

Keep a copy of your entire SH4 folder somewhere, and you can mess with your game as much as you like...a reinstall is a matter of minutes.

Vorkapitein, you have multiple verions of mods, overwriting each other, etc.
I would do a fresh install, and only use the latest version of mods, to begin with.

Originally Posted by Paajtor

Keep a copy of your entire SH4 folder somewhere, and you can mess with your game as much as you like...a reinstall is a matter of minutes.

Vorkapitein, you have multiple verions of mods, overwriting each other, etc.
I would do a fresh install, and only use the latest version of mods, to begin with.

as a rule, anyone using or doing mods should copy a clean unmodded version of the stock data folder (v1.4 or v1.5 or both) to their documents file to restore corrupted files.

if i remember correctly optics2 read me for 1.5 says maxoptics if used for 1.5 causes ctd and other issues which is the reason he had to make optics2 in the first place.

also i think optics2 has enviromental side effects (funny colors and ghost images) but maybe thats just me.

[John W. Hamm]

I would un install one mod at a time (I know it wounds time consumeing) untill you no longer have that issue in order to figure out which mod it is causing that, with as many mods as you have it would be virtually impossible without countless hours of reviewing each mod to figure out the correct order, and to be honest with all the changes that each of those mods make to the game and then to the other mods as well, it's a very real possiblity that there is no correct load order to keep them from not working with other mods. alot of the reason is is some modders especially newr one, don't start their work with a vanilla copy they use already modded files and mod those, which might mean there are other changes already in place in addition to their modded files, and I could name a ton of other issues as well.

Originally Posted by John W. Hamm

I would un install one mod at a time (I know it wounds time consumeing) untill you no longer have that issue in order to figure out which mod it is causing that, with as many mods as you have it would be virtually impossible without countless hours of reviewing each mod to figure out the correct order, and to be honest with all the changes that each of those mods make to the game and then to the other mods as well, it's a very real possiblity that there is no correct load order to keep them from not working with other mods. alot of the reason is is some modders especially newr one, don't start their work with a vanilla copy they use already modded files and mod those, which might mean there are other changes already in place in addition to their modded files, and I could name a ton of other issues as well.

another common mistake is to make changes to the game with mini tweaker or 3ditor while you have mods installed, always uninstall all your mods before making changes to them or the game then reinstall them when your done. what happens is whe jsgme goes to uninstall the mod it doesnt recognise the changed file so it cant restore it. if you need to make changes with a mod installed then after you finish you HAVE TO manually restore the file to its prechanged version then uninstal the mod, this prevents unrecognised files being left in the game, now you replace the file in the uninstalled mod. if not jsgme leaves the changed file in the game because it doesnt recognize it anymore and now the game has a non stock file in the stock game so any mods installed may no longer work right because that is not the stock file. bottom line is its easier than you think to corruupt not only the game but also your mods.

as a rule, anytime i have "issues" i delete the data folder and replace it with my back up copy of a virgin data folder, then i delete all the mods from jsgme and replace them with my back up copies of the mods. this way no matter what is corrupted i can start fresh in only a few minutes. trying to save something might save the very thing thats corrupted.