[REQ] Re-enabling the Type XVIII in Operation Monsun

[Rockin Robbins]

But, the original modder might add, don't go to him asking what to do when things don't work out quite as expected.

That is the source of a lot of modder irritation: people who mix fuel oil and fertilizer and ask why they had an explosion. Much of the time they then blame the fertilizer manufacturer!

It's amazing how many things break when you layer fifteen mods on top of Trigger Maru Overhauled. Ducimus shouldn't have to hear about it. The only exception has been the tendency of major mods to work together. But that is by design of the modders, not because of user complaints.

Now if you were to go to said modder and say "I did this and this and I knew the results were my problem, not yours. But the following really interesting and unanticipated things happened...." you might probably get a positive response. You never know what you can learn if you resist the urge to blame someone else.

[LW_lcarp]

Let me get this right. A modder is having a hissy fit about someone modding his work when he in fact modded some one elses work. (insert scratching head smiley here)

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

And "WHO’s" work am I "SUPPOSES" to be modding ? (insert "very annoyed" look )

I think he means the work of the ubi devs.

Let's not go down this road too quickly. These discussions about tweaks always end with broken feelings for some. Let's just agree that "we" (general speeking) disagree about how to play the game, and then that's it.

Personally, I have yet to find the time to try your Monsun mod, but I'm sure I will find both things to love and some things will be missed or desired changed. Especially, because I really haven't played the stock uboat part yet. No matter what, you'll still be the original mod creator and remembered as such.
If you don't wish to help to alter your mod, it's only understandable. And if people choose to try it out on their own, it's no responsability of yours, if it doesn't work. Fair enough, no?

[Captain Vlad]

If someone wants to tweak a mod for their own personal enjoyment, it's beyond me why anyone would care.

Now, if they start posting 'My Improved Version of Lurker's RSRD mod!' then I could see a problem. But no one here has done that.

[Gato76]

Lurker this is just an idea; how about having the XVIII renamed to XII with the turbine disable, by the way OM is great

[DeepIron]

Originally Posted by Captain Vlad

If someone wants to tweak a mod for their own personal enjoyment, it's beyond me why anyone would care.
Now, if they start posting 'My Improved Version of Lurker's RSRD mod!' then I could see a problem. But no one here has done that.

I think part of the issue is this:

was wondering if someone who knows their way around the files, if they could re-enable the Type XVIII and it's equipment.

basically I wouldn't call that a "personal usage" tweaking of the files... I'm not wanting to start a "tempest in a teapot" and I don't think the request was "mal-intended" but asking for help to mod another's work seems "inappropriate"...

[Wilcke]

Another point being that the campaign files are unique creations in SH4. The devs included the Editor and one can create original campaign files and load them and run them.

Its a great feature, that is bringing a lot of historical accuracy to SH4. I suppose it can also be custom tailored to whatever one would want in a campaign. As far as the rest of the topic, I have just gotten my last bill from our attorney and it ain't pretty so I am not even gonna open that "can of worms". In fact I cannot even recall what you guys were discussing......thats all.

[Captain Vlad]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

I wouldn't call that a "personal usage" tweaking of the files... I'm not wanting to start a "tempest in a teapot" and I don't think the request was "mal-intended" but asking for help to mod another's work seems "inappropriate"...

I still disagree. Note that this opinion is from someone who has no clue how to begin to modify a game beyond a very basic level, and would certainly require the help if he wished to tweak his own game in a similar fashion.

We can't all be code monkeys.