[help] Frigate and antiship missiles, how to survive

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

We're talking about a trade off here. Of course it's not as proficient. That's not the issue. The question is whether it is good enough to allow the FFG a chance at defeating the missiles that get through the SM-2 and chaff. And of course you don't use both at the same time, you use the SM-2 when you first detect them and use the CIWS to pick off the leakers. Even in manual it's still quick too. It's just tab-click-boom-tab-click-boom.... I don't see how you can dismiss that outright instead of trying it out first.

You are right, proficiency is not the issue, gameplay balance is. If you ditch the cwis (in auto/full auto mode) no amount of chaff/flares and sm-2 will enable the frigate to survive against a volley of 8-10+ missiles. What happens if you attack the frigate from to oppossing directions ? Same problem.
At least with auto targetting you give the player on the perry a fighting chance, he may die or he may survive but at least he has a fighting chance.
With no cwis on auto you have no chance whatsoever, you lose every single time.
Thats why I prefer to renounce to the TIW messages and regain the CWIS.

[TLAM Strike]

Let me double post an idea that I sent ML.

What if we had a normal no TIW missile that dropped a torpedo noisemaker in the water for the TIW at launch.

It that possable with doctrines?

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Let me double post an idea that I sent ML.

What if we had a normal no TIW missile that dropped a torpedo noisemaker in the water for the TIW at launch.

It that possable with doctrines?

Considering that the empty first stage of the -27 sticks around after it launches the 2nd stage, it seems like it should be possible. LW is the expert though, he'll know for sure.

[Mau]

I agree that we absolutely need the CIWS. What about the other target, i.e. SSM being launched by land or other ship? As well you said Subsonic, what about supersonic? So is it really caused by the TIW?

Thanks

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by Mau

I agree that we absolutely need the CIWS. What about the other target, i.e. SSM being launched by land or other ship? As well you said Subsonic, what about supersonic? So is it really caused by the TIW?

Thanks

Yeah, it's definitely the TIW that's doing it. The only weapons effected are sub-launched missiles. The CIWS is working normally against surface, land, and air launched threats.