Statistic on what Americans think of Global Warming

[SUBMAN1]

Good thing I am in the majority. I was wondering how many whackos believing in man as the problem were in this country. Seems only a third or less are whacked.

I especially like Greenpeace's founders comments. He hits the head on the nail, and he is also in a position to know:

No wonder Greenpeace's co-founder Patrick Moore wrote recently that "the environmental movement I helped found has lost its objectivity, morality and humanity." Moore frowns on using the term "environmental" for the Global Warming campaigners. I can see his point.

Perhaps it's time hear from "traditional" environmentalism for a change, instead of its successor, the Carbon Cult?

Full article here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04..._warming_yawn/

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[kurtz]

Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by kurtz

Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.

The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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[CaptHawkeye]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by CaptHawkeye

We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.

For lack of a better alternative. And, if you look at his track record, its not that bad.

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[CaptHawkeye]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

For lack of a better alternative. And, if you look at his track record, its not that bad.

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Lack of a better alternative my ass, Gore schooled Bush on every point during the pre election policy debates, but Americans didn't vote for him because he sounded "arrogant" while he was wiping the floor with GW. Americans have a cultural AVERSION to intellectuals which they've proven over and over again.

Oh yes, i'm sure historians will look at George's track record and totally forget the parts about ignoring the Bill of Rights, inflating the dollar into uselessness, and expanding the war on terror into a pointlessly protracted campaign when he had Bin Laden right at his fingertips.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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You have brains... but do you use them?:hmm:

To add to TDK's post, yes, Earth's temperatures have been evolving since the creation of it roughly 4.5 billion years ago... and yes, we shouldn't all jump to the conclusion that recent warming with Earth is spelling out our doom as Al Gore says, but what we can't afford is to ignore the simple fact that our climate is changing, and whatever the cause may be, we need to keep our minds open and our sense about us. We need to remember that we play half the game in heating Earth's surface and we do cause some of the problems with the greenhouse effect, though the other half is natural.

Are temperatures up? Yes. Is the pollution level up (this includes CFCs)? Yes. Should we be concerned? Yes. Should we think this is our doom? Certainly not. Should we start focusing more on studying the cycles Earth goes through? Absolutely. Should we try to decrease the amount of pollutants we emit (including carbon dioxide)? Absolutely.

[TDK1044]

Good post, Stealth Hunter.

[CCIP]

Perhaps it's time hear from "traditional" environmentalism for a change, instead of its successor, the Carbon Cult?

Agreed 100% on this. Mind you, I think it still entails curbing emissions - cars etc. don't only produce carbon - but I am tired of this global warming thing becoming the only environmental issue on the table. There are more overarching concerns at hand.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Agreed 100% on this. Mind you, I think it still entails curbing emissions - cars etc. don't only produce carbon - but I am tired of this global warming thing becoming the only environmental issue on the table. There are more overarching concerns at hand.

Best way to put it right there -

[Tchocky]

Controversy creation, and all that.

[TDK1044]

I read a very interesting study that looked at sunspots and other solar activity and the effect that such activity had on the Earth's climate. Many climatic anonalies related to GW were explained and correlated in that study.

Common sense tells us that we should all work at caring more about our planet and our impact on it, but much of the GW argument is politically motivated nonsense in my view.

[Safe-Keeper]

The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

Scientists hyping? That's new to me. Scientists don't hype, the media does. And only a handful? If thousands upon thousands of scientists are 'only a handful', you're one hard person to impress.

And either way, Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Scientists hyping? That's new to me. Scientists don't hype, the media does. And only a handful? If thousands upon thousands of scientists are 'only a handful', you're one hard person to impress.

Better check again. And for every scientist saying anything pro global warming, you have 2 saying they are incorrect. What you have is a couple scientists who see something and say it must be man made, and then they get excited and hype it. THe media hears them, and hypes it even further. Regardless, global warming has been happening since the day we left our mini ice age in the 1800's. Now we are headed back down hill towards another ice age. Imagine that!

And either way, Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.

Believe what you want on creationism, since you can't explain some things any other way - science has no explanation when it even comes to human kindness.

As for scientific study - that works only when all scientists are in agreement, so you can flush that argument down the toilet too.

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[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

At least in America, we still have our brains.

You know Subman, its funny but everytime you spam out this forum with thread after thread after thread, you seem to want prove the exact opposite of that statement. :hmm: