World Bank chief: Ethanol cars run on human misery

[Trex]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Thanks Biofuel.

The problem is that people are lumping things together. It's like sex - sex includes loving, it includes fun and, sadly, it includes rape and serial killers. To diss sex because of the one end of the spectrum would be silly, although I'm sure my Baptist grandmother might have tried.

'Biofuel' covers a wide spectrum of alternatives. At present, the most common one is indeed sucking food from the hungry. The arguments constantly being brought forward against 'biofuel' apply only to this one. Such argument do not in any way count against all biofuel options, many of which have absolutely no impact on food crops.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Trex

The problem is that people are lumping things together. It's like sex - sex includes loving, it includes fun and, sadly, it includes rape and serial killers. To diss sex because of the one end of the spectrum would be silly, although I'm sure my Baptist grandmother might have tried.

'Biofuel' covers a wide spectrum of alternatives. At present, the most common one is indeed sucking food from the hungry. The arguments constantly being brought forward against 'biofuel' apply only to this one. Such argument do not in any way count against all biofuel options, many of which have absolutely no impact on food crops.

Well, I've heard of the carcass to oil from the chicken farms, but the big push comes from like corn crops in the US. Corn that would normally have been fed to people, now goes to fuel at a higher cost. Other grain foods must step in and take up the slack, so their price goes up too. What it turns out is to be one big snowball and the poor mouths of the world suffer for it. This is not acceptable.

-S

[Trex]

Taking food from hungry people to make fuel is not acceptable. Fully agreed. That does not negate the entire concept however. There are other options that would not divert food crops. Those are the only biofuel options that can be supported, just on a humanitarian basis.

[SUBMAN1]

US food under that worst inflation in 17 years - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24127314/

-S