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Old 04-10-08, 03:00 PM   #1
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Every time i think i've seen the acme of disgusting crap labled as "art" Germany proves me wrong again.
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Old 04-10-08, 03:11 PM   #2
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"One has to introduce new elements," he says. Otherwise it is difficult to attract new theater goers.


That says it all. I wonder how much a head he charges.

They rant about capitalism but, their still out there for the almighty buck also.

Useally if not always at someone elses EXPENSE.

These ASSHATS make me sick.
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Old 04-10-08, 03:15 PM   #3
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This looks seriously stupid. Not to mention those seniors need to get some cloths on....
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Old 04-10-08, 03:29 PM   #4
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Can't say I like it, but provocative and nude performances in german theatres and operas is nothing new. It's part of artistic freedom - and that includes the freedom of showing bad taste, too, which happens often in german theatre and opera productions. Where freedom usually is accepted to eventually produce conflict and critical comment, or heartbreaking, hysterically exaggerated pathos - there must be freedom for the other extreme as well. That'S what it is about, this freedom. You either take both the light and the shadow - or you are left with only the darkness.

People are also free to buy a ticket - or not. that also is a freedom. the latter is the choice I would make. Was dem einen recht ist, ist dem anderen billig: we had the Fitna movie. Now we have the arab reaction to Fitna: .

And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.
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Old 04-10-08, 03:33 PM   #5
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Yeah, it's offensive. But so are hate groups. And freedom of speech allows those...

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Old 04-10-08, 03:43 PM   #6
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Can't say I like it, but provocative and nude performances in german theatres and operas is nothing new. It's part of artistic freedom - and that includes the freedom of showing bad taste, too, which happens often in german theatre and opera productions. Where freedom usually is accepted to eventually produce conflict and critical comment, or heartbreaking, hysterically exaggerated pathos - there must be freedom for the other extreme as well. That'S what it is about, this freedom. You either take both the light and the shadow - or you are left with only the darkness.

People are also free to buy a ticket - or not. that also is a freedom. the latter is the choice I would make. Was dem einen recht ist, ist dem anderen billig: we had the Fitna movie. Now we have the arab reaction to Fitna: .

And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.
Exactly. Well said.
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Old 04-10-08, 03:52 PM   #7
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...And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.
Exactly. Well said.
No entirely. This is coming from a country that promotes US bashing, yet at the same time has a ban on freedom of speech? The swastika for example. There is no real freedom of speech in Germany.

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...And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.
Exactly. Well said.
No entirely. This is coming from a country that promotes US bashing, yet at the same time has a ban on freedom of speech? The swastika for example. There is no real freedom of speech in Germany.

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Apart from the Swastika example for obvious reasons can you give a broad list of examples to support your claim that "there is no real freedom of speech in Germany"?
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No entirely. This is coming from a country that promotes US bashing, yet at the same time has a ban on freedom of speech? The swastika for example. There is no real freedom of speech in Germany.
Citing one example, in this case the ban on Nazi symbols, as proving a lack of free speech is dangerous. For instance, it is illegal in the UK to 'glorify' terrorism. Does that mean that the UK does not have free speech? Hardly.
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Old 04-10-08, 03:43 PM   #10
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I do believe the more you rant against these people the bigger there smile. Sorry to say that, but it's true. Seen it so many times I lost count, they love to shock people and upset them while another percentage think it's cool.


Sad world we live in...................
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Old 04-10-08, 03:19 PM   #11
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Well that's art for you.

It does not have to appeal to everyone. I can't imagine this play being financially successful.

It is artistically successful evidently. It was meant to shock and offend, and, judging from the comments here it did.

Me? I just don't let stuff like this get to me. Life is way too short to worry about this type of stuff.
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