A tale of two Koreas...

bradclark1 · 03-30-08, 07:45 PM

China would never allow a unified Korea even if the north did invade first. China is still a communist government and they will fight to keep the north as a buffer zone. If China got wind that Jong wanted to invade they would make him get an unexpected illness and die then put someone they can control to rule. Jong knows it too.

Yahoshua · 03-31-08, 12:41 AM

What the chinese want desperately to avoid most is a refugee problem coming from NK into Chinese territory.

As far as the Chinese are concerned with unification, a unified Korea may mean better business for Chinese exports. At worst, it would mean greater competition from Korean manufacturers, not that the Chinese are having their own problems with factories closing up and moving to vietnam because (SURPRISE!!) it's cheaper and easier to manufacture the same products in vietnam than to do the same in China.

Likewise, having another unification war would prove more beneficial to China in the long run. Who would really notice a few hundred spies mixed in with the refugees that are forced back onto former NK territory after the unification? This makes it easier for Chinese intelligence to steal technology secrets from the U.S. adn SK government and better allow the Chinese to gauge SK battle capabilities for future conflicts. Not to mention the CHinese would no longer need to worry about controlling a now worthless pet, Kimmy Wong.

The Chinese have alot to gain from unification.

bookworm_020 · 03-31-08, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

The Chinese have alot to gain from unification.

I agree, it may not like the fact that it would lose a buffer agaist a western country, but it would stop alot of the embrassement it has suffered due to the refugees it's had to deal with (remember when they start to climb over the walls of foriegn embasies to try and get refugee status?) and the fact that Kim Jong has caused so many problems for them (when it did the nuclear testing it was a slap in the face to China, as they had believed they had talked him out of it)

The fact that they do so much trade with South Korea and have to prop up the North with their own funds wouldn't hurt to much it became one country, as well as the fact that the US would loose basing rights as there is no justification needed anymore from the Korean perspective.

Ducimus · 03-31-08, 07:57 PM

How well the DPRK does, i think will be directly related to their strength of will and resolve (or lack of), coupled with China's stance. If China got into the fray again, we'd be in deep kimchi.

Since the war never technically ended there, i gotta tell ya, that country has had 50+ years of entrenching done. Ive seen wall mounted vulcun guns mounted as far south as Taegu. Theres only 3 major highways, they all run south to north (no coincidence), and all of them have stretchs that double as emergency run ways. I kid you not, you'll pass runway markers on the expressway as it widens up dramatically in width. Then theres the DMZ, but thats a given. Whole country is fortfied in various positions all the way to Pusan.

The North Koreans are tough bastards, but so are the south Koreans. Ever see a ROK Marine? They are TOUGH little bastards, and i mean TOUGH. Theres many areas that will lend itself to mechanized wafare, but once it hits the mountains, thats done. The mountains in korea are really rugged. No joke.

The thought has always been that if the DPRK were to roll south, theyd do it in the winter when the rice fields are frozen over. Another thought has always been that were not there to keep the North Koreans from rolling south, but to keep the south koreans from rolling north. Sarchastic joke amongst many that did time there.

03-30-08, 07:45 PM	#1
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	China would never allow a unified Korea even if the north did invade first. China is still a communist government and they will fight to keep the north as a buffer zone. If China got wind that Jong wanted to invade they would make him get an unexpected illness and die then put someone they can control to rule. Jong knows it too. __________________

03-31-08, 12:41 AM	#2
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What the chinese want desperately to avoid most is a refugee problem coming from NK into Chinese territory. As far as the Chinese are concerned with unification, a unified Korea may mean better business for Chinese exports. At worst, it would mean greater competition from Korean manufacturers, not that the Chinese are having their own problems with factories closing up and moving to vietnam because (SURPRISE!!) it's cheaper and easier to manufacture the same products in vietnam than to do the same in China. Likewise, having another unification war would prove more beneficial to China in the long run. Who would really notice a few hundred spies mixed in with the refugees that are forced back onto former NK territory after the unification? This makes it easier for Chinese intelligence to steal technology secrets from the U.S. adn SK government and better allow the Chinese to gauge SK battle capabilities for future conflicts. Not to mention the CHinese would no longer need to worry about controlling a now worthless pet, Kimmy Wong. The Chinese have alot to gain from unification. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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03-31-08, 07:57 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	How well the DPRK does, i think will be directly related to their strength of will and resolve (or lack of), coupled with China's stance. If China got into the fray again, we'd be in deep kimchi. Since the war never technically ended there, i gotta tell ya, that country has had 50+ years of entrenching done. Ive seen wall mounted vulcun guns mounted as far south as Taegu. Theres only 3 major highways, they all run south to north (no coincidence), and all of them have stretchs that double as emergency run ways. I kid you not, you'll pass runway markers on the expressway as it widens up dramatically in width. Then theres the DMZ, but thats a given. Whole country is fortfied in various positions all the way to Pusan. The North Koreans are tough bastards, but so are the south Koreans. Ever see a ROK Marine? They are TOUGH little bastards, and i mean TOUGH. Theres many areas that will lend itself to mechanized wafare, but once it hits the mountains, thats done. The mountains in korea are really rugged. No joke. The thought has always been that if the DPRK were to roll south, theyd do it in the winter when the rice fields are frozen over. Another thought has always been that were not there to keep the North Koreans from rolling south, but to keep the south koreans from rolling north. Sarchastic joke amongst many that did time there.