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View Poll Results: Are you comfortable with the Muslims/Islamics?
Yes 31 55.36%
Somewhat 2 3.57%
No 16 28.57%
I hate them, utterly HATE them. 7 12.50%
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Old 03-28-08, 07:58 PM   #1
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We'll continue this discussion in the morning.
You think this will still be unlocked then?
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Old 03-28-08, 08:07 PM   #2
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Ask me couple of yrs back and i would of said Yes!. Now in a nutshell i have no problem with them weary of them yes. But its not like im going to cross the street to avoid them.

I watched this vid last night which has muslim belief as its has quotes from the Qu-ran(sp) Great documentary on Death. lol Seriously it makes you think about life in general.

From the day your born your on the countdown to your death no matter who you are what you do the end is the same for everyone of us. Death. So really life is just meaningless you strive to better yourself you do good things you achieve great things personally then you die...

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Nobody knows what will happen in the next few hours or even in seconds. Time flies in the countdown to one’s own death. Every day brings that predestined day closer. In this film you are invited to see the true nature of our worldly existence. It is a short and deceptive life in which worldly desires seem fascinating and full of promise, but the truth is much different.
Documentary: The Truth of the life of this World.
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...85608534320808
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Old 03-28-08, 08:15 PM   #3
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No, not comfortable.

I have NEVER heard anything GOOD about them. Nor have i SEEN anything good. My opinion and distrust increased during the "cartoonist riots". Up until that point, i thought it was just the extremists. After that point, i think that the majority of them ARE extremists. In one fell swoop, they proved the cartoonists caricatures corrrect.


I have yet to have heard, or seen, any reason to be comfortable.
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Old 03-28-08, 08:41 PM   #4
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No, not comfortable.

I have NEVER heard anything GOOD about them. Nor have i SEEN anything good. My opinion and distrust increased during the "cartoonist riots". Up until that point, i thought it was just the extremists. After that point, i think that the majority of them ARE extremists. In one fell swoop, they proved the cartoonists caricatures corrrect.


I have yet to have heard, or seen, any reason to be comfortable.
This is more or less what I wanted to say. When I lived in Russia, the only people that ever gave us problems were Arabic guys! We had a few girls in our student group, and they would follow them constantly. We had to set a few things straight with them. For me personally, Sept. 11th has ruined it for me. I am interested in the Arabic language(s) and culture, but Islam, I have zero interest in. At this point, Islam has some serious PR issues to resolve, before I trust anybody that follows it.
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Old 03-28-08, 08:56 PM   #5
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what's with all the inflammatory threads on islam the last couple of weeks?

let me tell a funny story...

once upon a time, when i was a young man in london, i went to the university mosque for friday prayers. after we'd finished, a guy stood up and started talking. he was from hizb-al-tahrir, and he was basically telling us to get ready for a violent jihad against the West.

What's funny? well, he was basically using the same arguments that i've seen posted here -- i've lived amongst the enemy, so i know how they think, despite appearances they hate us; look at their actions in israel and bosnia and iraq (mid 90's) -- they're obviously out to kill us; muslims get killed every day in those places, but where's the western outcry?; look at their cultural ingresses into our countries, music, food, they want to build churches; quotes from the bible taken out of context; look at history and how they've treated everyone; etc.

sound familiar?

hate the haters and the hypocrites.
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Old 03-28-08, 10:07 PM   #6
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what's with all the inflammatory threads on islam the last couple of weeks?

let me tell a funny story...

once upon a time, when i was a young man in london, i went to the university mosque for friday prayers. after we'd finished, a guy stood up and started talking. he was from hizb-al-tahrir, and he was basically telling us to get ready for a violent jihad against the West.

What's funny? well, he was basically using the same arguments that i've seen posted here -- i've lived amongst the enemy, so i know how they think, despite appearances they hate us; look at their actions in israel and bosnia and iraq (mid 90's) -- they're obviously out to kill us; muslims get killed every day in those places, but where's the western outcry?; look at their cultural ingresses into our countries, music, food, they want to build churches; quotes from the bible taken out of context; look at history and how they've treated everyone; etc.

sound familiar?

hate the haters and the hypocrites.
Can i ask how you practice your faith? Would you like the right for muslims to use sharia instead of local laws? What do the muslims you know think of western culture?

Honest questions, prove me wrong, i would happily be ignorant.
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Old 03-28-08, 08:58 PM   #7
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Some people in a particular group did something bad so this is a group of bad people.
Does not compute!

Some people read and follow a book that contains a handful of morally dubious quotes,
so they must be morally dubious people.
Does not compute!

Judge people not by their race, nationality, religion, age, gender, sexual orientation,
wealth, beauty, disabilities or any other group they might belong to.

Judge them as an individual by their actions, words and habits and then only after you
understand them.


*edit* Well said Caspofungin.
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Old 03-28-08, 09:04 PM   #8
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As an ostrich, I'm going to wait this one out.
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Old 03-28-08, 09:11 PM   #9
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I never met a Muslim i would be "comfortable with" but I have no hate for them as a group either.
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Old 03-28-08, 09:14 PM   #10
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I never met a Muslim i would be "comfortable with" but I have no hate for them as a group either.
Tell me, are you comfortable with Caspofungin and the other Muslim members of subsim being here?
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Old 03-28-08, 11:37 PM   #11
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I tried dating a muslim egyption chick once. She was hot. Man oh man she was hot. But her father and religion got in the way. He told me I had to convert to his religion. I told him I don't believe in religion and I wouldn't want to disrespect anyones religion by falsely agreeing to converted in something I don't believe in. So she chose her heritage I said good bye. That is that.

I have nothing against people as long as they don't force there ideals down my throat. I don't care what people believe in. If your happy, all the power to you.

But if someone tries to force there ideals on me then we will have a problem.

Peace all.
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Old 03-29-08, 08:56 AM   #12
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I voted "No" but that does not mean I can not feel comfortable with Muslims, I know too many who I really like. I would just prefer them to be non-Muslims.
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Old 03-29-08, 06:06 PM   #13
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As a soldier I will not go into detailed comments as I will be keel hauled without a doubt. But if you really want to know what people think; ask the mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons & daughters who have lost a soldier to these fanatics within this religion.

Majority of wars are started by religion and that is a fact of life.

I'll shut up now
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Old 04-01-08, 09:58 AM   #14
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Definitely OK with moderate Muslims, just hate the radicals who bend what their prophet says for their own gain.
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Old 04-01-08, 12:43 PM   #15
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Hmm

To be honest, the only thing about Islam or Islamics I really really dislike... apart from the loons who kill in the name of their religion thus giving everybody a bad name.

The only thing is... Halal meat. And kosher meat while I am thinking about it. Very medieval way of doing things, and needlessly cruel to the animal in question. No animal deserves to die by having its throat slit and being aware of that fact, and bleeding to death completely terrified.
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