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Old 03-14-08, 02:25 PM   #1
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I'd be proud that the Canadians thought enough of us to help defend our nation and i'd be quite willing to help Canada defend their country from attack.

That's what good neighbors do.
It isn't helping us defend our nation that is at stake. It is for Civil Unrest.

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which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation in a civil emergency.
THis is the government securing its back if the people don't go along with what they say. That is the problem.

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Old 03-14-08, 02:32 PM   #2
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I should imagine if either of the countries were in need of urgent military assistance, whether because of a disater or invasion, there would be almost automatic assistance given.
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Old 03-14-08, 02:35 PM   #3
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I should imagine if either of the countries were in need of urgent military assistance, whether because of a disater or invasion, there would be almost automatic assistance given.
Thats the point - it is not about disaster or invasion relief. Its like our governments are expecting civil unrest from its citizens.
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I should imagine if either of the countries were in need of urgent military assistance, whether because of a disater or invasion, there would be almost automatic assistance given.
Thats the point - it is not about disaster or invasion relief. Its like our governments are expecting civil unrest from its citizens.
Would that be a big surprise? And no pun intended, just asking your opinion.
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This will finally pave the way for our planned invasion of Canada !!! MUAHAHAHAAA !

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Would that be a big surprise? And no pun intended, just asking your opinion.
This Canada Mexico US idea is probably not going to go over real well once people realize whats happening, so no, it is not a big surprise. It means the death of the US of A as we know it.

Here is the big hurdle that gives people the right to stop it forcefully to:

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Article I, Section 10, Clause 3: “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”
Congress is not involved on this one either.

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Start preparing NOW!!!!



From now on you will add "eh" (pronounced ay) to the end of every sentence!
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Start preparing NOW!!!!
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From now on you will add "eh" (pronounced ay) to the end of every sentence!
I wonder how the Frenchies are going to take this? Not to well I imagine.

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Here is the big hurdle that gives people the right to stop it forcefully to:

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Article I, Section 10, Clause 3: “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”
Congress is not involved on this one either.

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But neither was a state involved. It was explicitly an agreement between NORTHCOM and CANADACOM. A lame loophole maybe but it is legit none-the-less.

Tchocky, you hit the nail on the head. Canadian troops have deployed to the United States before. The last time was Operation UNISON in 2004. Was it to suppress an insurrection? No: they were delivering relief supplies and aiding in reconstruction projects in the Gulf area after Hurricane Katrina. I'm not sure if they were armed or not but I think we all can agree that shooting them would be a bad idea. Part of the article addresses the circumstances necessary for sending troops; troops can and already have been sent, this just facilititates better co-operation between the two services.

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"Are we going to see [U.S.] troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.

Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he said.

But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to civilian authorities in both countries whether military assistance is requested or even used. He said the agreement is "benign" and simply sets the stage for military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.

"But there's no agreement to allow troops to come in," he said. "It facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The 'allow' piece is entirely up to the two governments."

If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military, Scanlon added.
I think if there's ever a crisis along the border - hijacked vehicle, terror attack, environmental catastrophe - where lives are dependent upon the effectiveness and rapidity of your response, the force with the highest readiness and in the best position to act should. Pending, of course, for civilian requests for assistance, which the agreement demands.
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