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View Poll Results: Who will be the next President of the United States?
Joe Biden 1 1.30%
Hillary Clinton 25 32.47%
John Edwards 3 3.90%
Rudy Giuliani 6 7.79%
Mike Huckabee 7 9.09%
John McCain 5 6.49%
Barack Obama 13 16.88%
Ron Paul 5 6.49%
Bill Richardson 1 1.30%
Mitt Romney 3 3.90%
Fred Thompson 8 10.39%
Pat Buchanan 0 0%
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Old 02-07-08, 08:01 PM   #511
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Some interesting McCain remarks:

http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Yeas_a...s-CPAC-Remarks

This part in particular impressed me. Refreshing to hear a pol speak in such definitive terms:

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As you know, I was deprived of liberty for a time in my life, and while my love of liberty is no greater than yours, you can be confident that mine is the equal of any American's. It is a deep and unwavering love. My life experiences in service to our country inform my political judgments. They are at the core of my convictions. I am pro-life and an advocate for the Rights of Man everywhere in the world because of them, because I know that to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator. I will never waver in that conviction, I promise you. I know in this country our liberty will not be seized in a political revolution or by a totalitarian government. But, rather, as Burke warned, it can be "nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts." I am alert to that risk and will defend against it, and ta ke comfort from the knowledge that I will be encouraged in that defense by my fellow conservatives.

You have heard me say before that for all my reputation as a maverick, I have only found true happiness in serving a cause greater than my self-interest. For me, that cause has always been our country, and the ideals that have made us great. I have been her imperfect servant for many years, and I have made many mistakes. You can attest to that, but need not. For I know them well myself. But I love her deeply and I will never, never tire of the honor of serving her. I cannot do that without your counsel and support. And I am grateful, very grateful, that you have given me this opportunity to ask for it.


Truly spoken from his heart. Yes, he has had his freedom stripped. He may have some strange ideals but all in all, he is a decent guy.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:46 PM   #512
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If you go back, I said a few months or so ago McCain would be the next President. I still stand by that prediction.

Yeah, but you didn't say it in the poll, and that's what counts


And now, we are down to a few Nostrodamusses (sp):

Hillary Clinton
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Mike Huckabee
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John McCain
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My pick for vice president is Dr. Condoleezza Rice ...
I would be all over that.
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Old 02-07-08, 11:10 PM   #513
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all those candidates just got owned... funny how Ron Paul is still running , yet Romney is out... first there were 12.. then there is 3..
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Old 02-08-08, 12:40 AM   #514
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all those candidates just got owned... funny how Ron Paul is still running , yet Romney is out... first there were 12.. then there is 3..
You can all you want but Ron Paul has no possible chance of winning enough delegates to secure the nomination. At this point he's just spending his supporters money.
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Old 02-08-08, 04:32 AM   #515
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If you go back, I said a few months or so ago McCain would be the next President. I still stand by that prediction.

Yeah, but you didn't say it in the poll, and that's what counts


And now, we are down to a few Nostrodamusses (sp):

Hillary Clinton
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Mike Huckabee
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John McCain
AG124, donut, Iceman, MothBalls, wetgoat

Barack Obama
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My pick for vice president is Dr. Condoleezza Rice ...
I would be all over that.
Can I change my vote ? I'm not sure precisely who I voted for now. I never saw Billarys name up there. :hmm:

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Old 02-08-08, 09:57 AM   #516
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If you go back, I said a few months or so ago McCain would be the next President. I still stand by that prediction.

Yeah, but you didn't say it in the poll, and that's what counts


And now, we are down to a few Nostrodamusses (sp):

Hillary Clinton
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Mike Huckabee
bookworm_020, danurve, geetrue, Kapitan_Phillips, Sixpack, The WosMan, VonHammer

John McCain
AG124, donut, Iceman, MothBalls, wetgoat

Barack Obama
badhat17, Biggles, Blacklight, Bort, DAB, Fish, GunnerGreg, headcase, Lagger123987, Peto, RickC Sniper, Stealth Hunter, Zepheron

Well, I voted for Fred, I guess I never expected him to BECOME President, I just wanted him to be the next President.

But I'm fine with McCain.

OBH would be an unmitigated disaster.
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OBH would be an unmitigated disaster.
Who?
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whoops, got the initals wrong.

Barak Hussein Obama
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key word Hussein....
Mccain = "100 MORE YEARS in iraq"
Clinton = communist
Huckabee= same as mccain only anti illegal immigrant amnesty...
Obama= same as McCain, not gonna change anything, its gonna stay the same way it is now ( declining economy etc..)


google: diebold voting machine rigging
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key word Hussein....
Once again I am astounded by your logic.
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Still not going to say who I'm voting for because I'm still not positive. But I'm enjoying this primary bout very much.

My current stance (from an independant/objective view):

Democrats will sweep in November regardless of who Earns the candidacy. Voting turnout has been better for them and the number is growing. Some precincts in Wahington reported 100-150% greater turn-out than 4 years previous. They are motivated while the Republicans are still wishing McCain to be more conservative. Republicans still appear to be divided even though it's pretty clear who thier front-runner will be. I'll bet a half-bottle of Gallo White Port that when the time comes, the Democrats will not be as divided...

I believe Republicans would have a better chance if they would embrace a more moderate point of view. At least for this election. Independants are not looking for Conservative values. They are looking for someone who can reach a majority of Americans--not just those on the extreme left or right. Independants are naturally more moderate and will turn away from extremes this year. Especially the extreme right. For the Republicans to push an extreme conservative position is to lose Independants--and the White House.

I believe there are some candidates running who truly are good people. Currently, there is only one left that I don't feel like I can trust to not be self-serving. That's not to say that I think they would all do a great job...

I'm glad and encouraged to see the young voter turn-out this year. Hopefully, thier enthusiasm will be rewarded with a strong future in a revived country.
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its really funny how McCain's standing coencides with an Israeli Newspaper rating

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml

funny how Ron Paul isnt even on there..
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its really funny how McCain's standing coencides with an Israeli Newspaper rating

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml

funny how Ron Paul isnt even on there..
Thankfully, we can stop talking about Ron Paul now.
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Default Hillary campaign about to impode

Watching her on tv after these back to back wins of Obama she looks drawn, lost, worn out and stunned. It is clear she never ever saw this coming - such is her and Bill's ego.
Obama has won more votes than her.
Obama has raised more money than her.
Obama has won more states than her.
Obame has more pledged delegates than her.
Obama draws bigger crowds than her.
Obama has more influential endorsements than her.
And so it goes on.



Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic ain't going to cut it.
Hopefully, this will close the chapter on the Clintons. I find them deceitful, shallow and egotistical to extreme.

It is going to be very interesting to see which way Edwards will go - will he throw her a life-line? Doubt it.



Interesting article.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3341925.ece





"The biggest shock was that she had to lend her own campaign $5m (£2.56m) in January after Obama raised $32m seemingly effortlessly from small donors that month. She kept the news quiet before Super Tuesday lest it gave the impression that her candidacy was floundering. Her rival, whom she chided in a debate for keeping an untidy desk, had broken the Clintons’ mighty $118m money machine.
The plane flights where she mingled with journalists, pretending to be their stewardess and serving them peach cobbler, came about only because she could no longer afford a separate private plane, it emerged last week. A look at her financial returns revealed that $18,551.80 had been spent on an “event” at a Chicago steakhouse, $500,000 on parking fees and nearly $4m on political consultants in the run-up to Super Tuesday.
Obama’s aides stepped up the pressure this weekend by challenging Clinton to release her tax records and reveal the source of her personal $5m loan. “For someone who claims to be fully vetted, hiding a campaign loan from voters until after Super Tuesday and refusing to release your tax returns until after the primary doesn’t seem like the best way to prove that there are no surprises for the Republicans to find once they start digging,” said spokesman Bill Burton.
Obama warned last week that Republicans would find a new “dump-truck” of allegations to unload on her should she win and said: “I’ll just say that I’ve released my tax returns.” The Wall Street Journal has already drawn attention to the peculiar deal whereby Bill Clinton is set to receive a payoff of up to $20m from his friend Ron Burkle, his West Coast bachelor buddy, for severing relations with the Yucaipa group of companies, which are partly linked to the ruler of Dubai. Clinton believes that Obama will be “swiftboated” by the Republicans if he wins – a reference to the campaign to denigrate John Kerry, a Vietnam veteran, at the last election."
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its really funny how McCain's standing coencides with an Israeli Newspaper rating

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml

funny how Ron Paul isnt even on there..
Thankfully, we can stop talking about Ron Paul now.
Was there any discussion on Ron Paul?
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